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Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:05 am to bamarep
quote:You are such a 3rd grader.
You are such a fricking liar.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:07 am to Bard
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The key to this is that the Ukrainians never knew about it.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:07 am to mmcgrath
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Actually he couldn't. About 20% of the aid was too late and required a second Congressional Resolution to replace that amount
It's a monarchy, didn't you hear?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:07 am to zunic
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The extortion and bribery aside, failing to distribute the money as Congress appropriated is a violation of his oath.
There isn't a swinging dick on this board that wasn't told as a child - you're not getting your allowance until you do your chores.
That's all daddy Trump said to the Ukrainian children. Even you can't deny that.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:09 am to VOR
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If you know the facts and still have to ask, there’s no hope for you.
If it's that easy for you to see it should be that easy to describe said facts in words.
Do it.
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In simplest terms, you’d actually have to believe that his intent regarding Biden was purely for ethical concerns and not to gain political advantage.
When does doing the work of the country and gaining political advantage of said work not overlap each other. They are not mutually exclusive. If Trump executes an executive order to spend DoD funds on a the wall not only is he providing national security he is fulfilling on of his political promises. Plus the shite the Biden admitted to is bribery. Should we just ignore that?
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The abuse thing happened when he tried to override Congress and withhold military aid.
He was bound by law to withhold the aid until it was determined that the money wouldn't be wasted on a corrupt honey pot.
So he bought Javelins from Raytheon and that pissed off the swamp. It pissed them off because the swamp couldn't funnel that money to the Atlantic Council and other NGOs in the Ukraine who funnel money back to DC politicians.
But the aid was provided by the September deadline. You just didn't get a chance to get your dirty hands on it. Trump spent the money before you could dole it out to your dirty friends.
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despite the narrative that Ukraine received the aid, they still haven’t received the full amount that Congress authorized.
What was the full amount?
And look at this shite right here^ VOR an American citizen fighting like hell to give foreign aid to corrupt counties instead of using that money on U.S. citizens for hundreds of different needs. Sad.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 9:15 am
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:10 am to Bard
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He slowed down military aid while trying to get the EU to give more since stopping Russian aggression is far more imperative to them than it is to us. The key to this is that the Ukrainians never knew about it.
To the best of my knowledge a President can predicate a meeting on anything he wants. Please feel free to quote which law says otherwise. I'll wait.
1. That is one of several excuses (none under oath) he used for the military aid, yet he never showed any proof he tried to get EU spending increased in that time AND the EU and European nations have outspent the US on the Ukraine by a large margin.
2. He can't predicate any official act on a personal benefit. There are rules against even using any public property for campaigning.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:11 am to mmcgrath
quote:“His own people” is laughable but they gave strictly their opinions when all the dust settled, you know that.
His own people have said he did so under oath. No one has testified under oath that he didn't. Mick Mulvaney admitted they did it at the podium.
Mulvaney was taken out of context as he attempted to explain that the fact that a QPQ exists does not in and of itself create something nefarious.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:11 am to mmcgrath
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2. He can't predicate any official act on a personal benefit.
And what official act did he predicate on a personal benefit?
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:13 am to mmcgrath
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He can't predicate any official act on a personal benefit.
There’s no evidence that he did any such thing. And you know it.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:13 am to bamarep
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Mcgrath's stupid arse thinks the Council on Foreign Relations sets foreign policy.
It's unbelievable that Ivory Tower can't get basic civics right.
The Executive sets foreign policy. Not the fricking swamp.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:14 am to loogaroo
quote:Except they did. They were especially alarmed on the day of the 2nd phone call in July.
The key to this is that the Ukrainians never knew about it.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:14 am to mmcgrath
He ran on the first point and you cannot prove the second.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:15 am to Godfather1
quote:I already posted it. Stop being such a swamp monster.
There’s no evidence that he did any such thing. And you know it.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:15 am to lsufanz
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He ran on the first point and you cannot prove the second.
I don’t know why we even bother. mmcgrath is a deranged individual who sees what he wants to see.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:15 am to GumboPot
Extortion.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:16 am to CelticDog
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Extortion.
Watermelon.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:17 am to mmcgrath
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2. He can't predicate any official act on a personal benefit. There are rules against even using any public property for campaigning.
Then why frick are you not calling for Joe Biden's head? That is exactly what he admitted to on video.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:17 am to CelticDog
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Extortion
Now do the Biden video.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:17 am to mmcgrath
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I already posted it.
You haven’t posted shite.
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