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Scott Rabais (The Advocate) on the LSU defense...

Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:50 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93799 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 4:50 am
From The Advocate this morning...

LSU has gone all Ferrari on offense, but title hopes rest on defense catching up
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LSU goes into its penultimate regular season game Saturday against Arkansas ranked 47th nationally allowing 367.8 yards per game

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Including LSU’s most recent national title season in 2007, 10 of the past 12 national champions have finished in the top 10 nationally in total defense, including LSU that year (third allowing 288.8 yards per game). The only exceptions: Ohio State ranked 19th in 2014 (342.4 ypg allowed) and Auburn with Cam Newton quarterbacking finished 60th in 2010 (368.4 ypg).

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These are obviously just numbers, but I found it interesting. This is also in the article...
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Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 5:00 am
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32697 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 5:16 am to
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Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.


Sorry but man or zone doesn’t make you take shitty angles and not wrap up.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Patrick Queen fills the wrong gap and lazily lets the QB run right by him.

It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone if Delpit can’t put a finger on a guy that runs a post route in front of him.

Check my post history I haven’t went at the defense at all in over a month but I’m sick and tired of them using the offensive success as a reason they can’t be half arse decent.

I’m also sick and tired of seeing our Heisman candidate in the game in the 4th quarter against teams that aren’t gonna be bowl eligible because our 2.5 million dollar coordinator can’t stop an 18 year old running a read option.

Offense shouldn’t slow down. Defense needs to catch up. This lack of effort, complacency, piss poor technique and bad play calls falls at Arandas feet. He has to be better
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7964 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:04 am to
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LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.
the stupidest shite I’ve ever heard. On what planet is a 2 minute TD worse than a 3 minute 3 and out
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:20 am to
Well the once proud LSU defense is now a joke to the rest of the CFB world,if that’s not motivation to improve they never will
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27702 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:46 am to
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if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.



The horror.
Posted by jacquespene8
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
4148 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:56 am to
What’s the difference between a 3 play scoring drive and all the 3 and outs our offense has had over the last 10 years? It’s just not a viable excuse.
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 6:59 am to
This offense will bring the Natty back to LA. Defense, lol, Aranda is a joke. LSU is getting robbed everyday.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:31 am to
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Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.


The defense dictates how long the defense is on the field.
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1367 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 7:58 am to
The problem is the stupid Cheetah package. Aranda insist on 3rd down to play one down lineman(Lawrence) and bring in two 200lb LBs to rush off the edge with 8 playing zone.

Bama concerted 3&10,3&25,3&10;3&19,4&5,4&4 on the package
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36524 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:13 am to
Our defense sucks dick. The only reason we may not win it all is because of them
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10724 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:19 am to
And the other side effect of the defense sucking is Myles Brennan hasn’t gotten nearly as many reps as we would’ve wanted or what he needs
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30476 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:19 am to
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Man defense is too taxing



This says to me thst they are not done recruiting dbs.


If we can get more Elias ricks and hit on some three stars like flott, aranda will be able to play man more.


I assume going forward, that of the 25 scholarships 13 or 14 will have tii on go to defense.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:23 am to
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Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.


I love Jacob Hester but honestly, I don't want to hear a guy who has continually defended Les Miles offensive system criticize one of the best offenses that college football has ever seen.

Opinion: DENIED
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 8:24 am
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:34 am to
Defense obviously has work to do. To me it's more of a consistency issue than scheme and such. At times, we absolutely shut teams down. Almost every game has stretches where the defense played lights out.

It's almost like the defense isn't mentally prepared all game. Past years with the slow ball control inconsistent offenses that we had the team had to rely on the defense to win games, now with a high powered offense the defense gets sloppy.

The difference between a 3 minute TD drive and a 3 and out is the TD. Mentally it's not on the defense to win the game, just to slow them down enough to keep the lead. But every game we either get a big lead then the defense gets sloppy and let's the other team back in the game, or the defense starts out sloppy then adjusts and shuts the opponent down the rest of the game.

I'd love to see us dominate all game just like everyone else, but I see enough good from this defense to be confident that they will step up when needed and the team can get it done.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 8:36 am
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67019 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 8:38 am to
Not for nothing, but this thread reminds me of a teenage girl complaining about the floor mats of her BMW that daddy bought her for graduation.

Just fricking win the game.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:06 am to
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10 of the past 12 national champions have finished in the top 10 nationally in total defense


I'm curious what the national champion offense finished the season ranked. I won't have time to go look at it today, but I'll take a look this week or maybe tonight and compare some numbers.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:21 am to
Our offense was on the field longer than our defense against Ol Miss.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73168 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 9:35 am to
Former Tigers like Jacob Hester said LSU has been forced to play more zone defense than ever before because man defense is too taxing if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.

all that bs has been debunked here with actual TOP numbers basically being even on both sides of the ball AND the plays per game
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66259 posts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 10:56 am to
This is why I wish people would quit crying about the defense.

They make the stops needed to mount a huge lead any ways.

I don’t want change to affect the most efficient offense I have ever seen.

Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:01 am to
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if LSU’s offense is going to insist on these multiple two-minute scoring drives.


i understand the sentiment, but thats what makes this offense so dangerous, aggression.

if you can score on 1 play, you do it, over and over again.

Defense just needs to hold serve and make plays
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