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Luca Doncic is the best 20 year old basketball player since Magic Johnson...

Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Bill_M
NW Georgia
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:33 pm
and maybe Lebron. He has already passed Giannis in every area but defense. He had 25 assist/rebounds combined and 42 points tonight, it clearly wasn't a fluke.
He'll never be a great defensive player but he is virtually unlimited in every other way.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:33 pm to
I think Luca is the best player ever by age.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:34 pm to
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maybe Lebron


Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:37 pm to
He also has been playing pro ball for longer than any 20 year old
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
3404 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:37 pm to
He doesnt play any defense

Lebron was picking on him a couple weeks ago it was hard to watch
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:37 pm to

He is incredible to watch. 6 triples this season already. And here's a note

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Doncic joined LeBron James as the only players in NBA history younger than 21 to have a 40-point triple-double.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:42 pm to
he's a treat
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46625 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:53 pm to
He’s going to come within half an assist or so of averaging a triple double at age 20.

No player in league history has ever had a skill set this advanced at this age. He’s MUCH more polished at 20 than Lebron was.
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:54 pm to
Luca wont ever get the credit he deserves because he is white. Racism is rampant among the NBA and their fans.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30182 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:14 pm to
Euroball teaches the fundamentals that the AAU Basketball Circuits don't.

Those guys are supreme athletes, they can dunk and drive to the basket on a whim. They can get away with elite athleticism from their youth until they hit college where even some still get away with it.

Trae might become the better shooter, but Luca will be the better overall player from top to bottom.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35252 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:20 pm to
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and maybe Lebron.
Lebron turned 21 in December of his 3rd season while Luka turns 21 in February. Now Lebron played more minutes but the pace of play was much slower so I think per-100 possesion stats provide a better comparison.

In Lebron's 3rd season, he averaged 39.4 points, 8.8 rebounds, and 8.3 assists per 100 possessions with an EFG% of 51.5 and TS% of 56.8. In addition, the advanced stats show a 28.1 PER, 0.232 WS/48, 9.3 BPM, and 5.0 PIPM. His team outscored opponents by 4.1 points per 100 with him on the court and 10.4 points worse when he was off the court.

Luka is currently averaging 39.1 points, 9.0 assists, and 11.8 rebounds per 100 possessions with an EFG% of 54.1 and TS% of 60.9. The advanced stats show a 30.0 PER, 0.254 WS/48, 11.4 BPM, and 3.9 PIPM. His team is getting outscored by -0.4 points per 100 with him on the court and is 9.9 points better when he is off the court.

Based on individual stats alone, Luka is having a better season, although I think the on/off stats (which is a component of the PIPM metric) show that Lebron was carrying a greater load (led them to the playoffs and took the 2 time Eastern Conference Champs to 7) whereas Luka seems to have a better team around him.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:47 pm to
I was THIS close to dropping some coin on a Luca MVP future pre-season
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:54 pm to
From last season:
quote:

That put Doncic third in triple-doubles for a rookie. Only Ben Simmons (12) and Oscar Robertson (26) had more during their first NBA season.

Doncic has the most triple-doubles ever for a player 20 years old or younger.

Going further, Luka is fourth in triple-doubles for players under 21 years old. Doncic has until February 2020 to move up on this list. He trails only LeBron James (9), Ben Simmons (12), and Magic Johnson (13).


From 1 hour ago:
quote:

Monday’s triple-double was his sixth in only 13 games this season.


Well, that didn't take long to move up this year.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22546 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 12:00 am to
quote:

He has already passed Giannis in every area but defense.


What about rebounding? No? So just offense? Say that then.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:05 am to
He's a fricking beast. I wish he Spurs could've got him somehow
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75711 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 4:26 am to
Luca GOAT
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14675 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:46 am to
He's bron with no athleticness.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 8:16 am to
He's nearly averaging a triple double every game..
Posted by SoulBrotha91
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Luca Doncic is the best 20 year old basketball player since Magic Johnson...


Except he can actually shoot the ball eminently better from a variety of ranges, IDK much about his defense but if he can play D at roughly the same level prime Larry Bird did he'll be unstoppable
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