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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:36 pm to
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They live off credit cards during medical school and residency and pay off the credit cards with the loans. So it's not always all tuition.
Where did you hear of that?

Never heard of anyone doing that.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:37 pm to
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They live off credit cards during medical school and residency and pay off the credit cards with the loans.


no wonder docs are notoriously bad with money, don't see that sheepskin as ever being worth that burden
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22928 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:37 pm to
A girl I know has about $100k and not because she has an important high paying job. All because it was private college. Does some kind of marketing at a law firm. Makes minimum payments every month.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:39 pm to
Someone on Dave Ramsey the other day had $1 million total.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Where did you hear of that?



Well, maybe it's not common but I know of 3 doctors that did that. All 3 had their loans at least partially paid by their eventual employer though. One story I heard was pretty recently because she was talking about how many miles/points she had racked up while in medical school and was looking forward to traveling.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:40 pm to
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A girl I know has about $100k and not because she has an important high paying job. All because it was private college. Does some kind of marketing at a law firm. Makes minimum payments every month.


a friend of my daughter has a degree from DePaul that qualifies her to be a pre-school "teacher," $10-15/hr., she racked up 6 figures of debt for that world beater degree
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37899 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:43 pm to
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a degree from DePaul that qualifies her to be a pre-school "teacher," $10-15/hr., she racked up 6 figures of debt for that world beater degree



shouldn't that alone preclude her from being around impressionable young minds?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:46 pm to
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shouldn't that alone preclude her from being around impressionable young minds?


absolutely, she is an
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impressionable young mind


and shame on Depaul for offering a degree like that
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61407 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:49 pm to
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One story I heard was pretty recently because she was talking about how many miles/points she had racked up while in medical school and was looking forward to traveling


Do doctors get a lot of time off? I guess she means weekend traveling?

Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:49 pm to
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and shame on Depaul for offering a degree like that

if you offer it, they will matriculate


Call me later, I might need some start-up capital for my MLM-structured university
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29277 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:12 am to
I qualified for PSLF and still found it a better deal to pay off my loans early (did it in 6 years)
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:24 am to
The schools need to be backing these loans not the taxpayers!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46572 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:31 am to
There’s some rookie numbers in this thread.

Private/out of state medical school sends plenty of people north of 500k when combined with undergrad debt.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4199 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:00 am to
Assuming there is no scholarship or aid given, most, if not all, private schools will run you $45,000+ a year for tuition. Most out-of-state, pubic school tuition will run you $30,000+ a year. Most in-state, public school tuition is at least $10,000+ a year. Keep in mind, that tuition doesn't include living expenses, books, and various "fees."

The fact of the matter is that college tuition has gotten ridiculous. Tuition prices have simply skyrocketed in the past 10 or 15 years. As a society, we've ingrained in our youth that you must go to college if you want to be somebody. The problem with that is, most 17-year-olds don't have a clue in what they want to do in life, and sign up for a university because friends or there, they like the campus, or they like the _________ (insert academic department that they'll end up switching their major out of, some multiple times).

We should be imploring them to take gap years. Go move off and work somewhere. Gain some practical knowledge, make a little money, and see different things. It'll give you a chance to grow, mature, and figure out more what and what not you want to do. Repeat to them, college isn't going anywhere. College isn't going anywhere. College is not going anywhere. Additionally, if you move off somewhere and really happen to love that particular state/area, you automatically qualify for in-state tuition as a state resident.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15018 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:15 am to
Heard of?
A couple med school classmates of mine had gone to a private undergrad and was somewhere around $350K.


Mine was just a measly $197,000 when I finished (combined).
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:18 am to
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I may be eating some crow on this next year, but you need 4 and only 4 things:

1. Right kind of loans

2. Right kind of employment

3. Qualifying repayment plan

4. Make your 120 payments under #3



The other key is not waiting until the end of the 10 years to try and retroactively get everything approved.

They really drag their heels on everything, but if you're persistent it gets done. Wife and I are both hospital employed, and between that and residency we already have 5 years of payments certified and approved.

Not to say something will change, but when I hit the 120th qualifying payment I'm not paying another cent until they approve everything.

I had a much smaller loan debt than my wife, but together we have about $350k. We did the math, and with the 10 year forgiveness we come out ahead, but still end up paying a shite ton.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:23 am to
My bro came out with $350 in loans, but paid it off in 5 years.

He’s a Dr...was a great investment.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29286 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:25 am to
The 1 silver lining with the student loans is that it forces us to be aggressive with our retirement savings. Between 403s, 457s, and 529s we can decrease our AGI a very large amount keeping the payments down.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25751 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:37 am to
Private graduate schools are no joke. Don’t see why anyone would go to Tulane medical school if you could go to a public med school.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39617 posts
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:38 am to
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Not to say something will change, but when I hit the 120th qualifying payment I'm not paying another cent until they approve everything.



I wouldn't do that if I were you.

I believe the very last requirement for the loan forgiveness approval is you must still be current on loan payments and still employed at the qualifying employer.

That's gonna get some people eventually when someone quits their qualifying job after 120 months and then applies for forgiveness.
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