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White House Ukraine Expert Vindman Sought to “Correct” Transcript of Trump Call

Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:09 pm
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WASHINGTON — Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts to include them failed, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.

Colonel Vindman, who appeared on Capitol Hill wearing his dark blue Army dress uniform and military medals, told House impeachment investigators that he tried to change the reconstructed transcript made by the White House staff to reflect the omissions.


Failing NYT
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:12 pm to
LOL swamp rat
Posted by The Funnie Five
Bluffington
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:13 pm to
Mickey Goldmill and Big Scrub TX said that the transcript does not exist and the actual phone call is exactly what Schiff says it is.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23391 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:13 pm to
Looks great for trump if true
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10539 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:13 pm to
So the Dems want to change the Federal evidentiary rules regarding Hearsay


-Cool


This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69499 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:14 pm to
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The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.


None of this stuff changes the nature of the phone call, regardless of whether you thought the original transcript[t was damning or not.

We already know that the trascript is not verbatim. It says it on the bottom.

What would including these details have changed about the transcript?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 9:16 pm
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:15 pm to
Yet still no quid pro quo, correct?
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17565 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:31 pm to
If an Active Duty Officer is WITHOUT permission from his CO testifying to Privileged or Classified information then he should be stripped of all rank and court martialed before being either imprisoned or dishonorably discharged or both. Also applies if his CO has forbidden cooperation in an unauthorized activity.

His CO would be the CiC, POTUS.

This former Lt. Col. now pvt. should be headed to Ft. Leavenworth until adjudicated.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:31 pm to
He is lying
Posted by LafTiger
Member since Dec 2008
1300 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:35 pm to
So wait????

The dems, trying to get peach mints, instead find out we have recordings of Biden’s corrupt rear end talking about a company he is already on the record saying he knows nothing about???

lol!!!!!!!
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9405 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:35 pm to
Wait, the first “whistleblower” said the transcript was complete. Now this guy says it’s not???

Well alrightee then
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7867 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:45 pm to
Lol sure.

So we are hearing about these words and phrases. What were they?

I expect they must amount to high crimes and misdemeanors. So why aren’t they being shared?

shite is getting old. If it was impeachable it would have been front page news. More selective leaking to try to shape a bullshite narrative.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23245 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Mickey Goldmill and Big Scrub TX said that the transcript does not exist and the actual phone call is exactly what Schiff says it is.



Liar
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:13 pm to
LOL
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12121 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 10:20 pm to
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included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption,


There are.

quote:

and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.


Which was the company being investigated by the prosecutor fired by Biden himself. The one he discusses on tape.


All NYT has done is report that the this Col stated the record should read that there are tapes of Biden bragging about having the prosecutor fired by directly threatening billions in aid.

They can put whatever slant they want on it. Theres nothing here except Biden. Mentioning something everyone already knows isn't impeachable last I checked.


Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81466 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:09 pm to
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His CO would be the CiC, POTUS.


I'm pretty sure his CO would be the first General Officer in his chain of command.
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:36 pm to
How does a swampy rad like that hang on in a new admin? A liar being quoted by a lying publication. Ok there are likely recordings of Biden discussing corruption and there are recordings of Trump decrying corruption since that's his job. Great! And so what if the words Burisma Holdings were mentioned by THE PRESIDENT of UKRAINE. He's not the subject of an impeachment. What a frigging joke this whole episode is.

The Bidens were corrupt. Trump wanted the corruption stopped. That's the story. And that is the Dems case here? What the actual hell!
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
15693 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 11:38 pm to
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White House Ukraine Expert Vindman Sought to “Correct” Transcript of Trump Call


Can you give the Cliff's on this. Does this mean that important information was left off the original transcript or is Vindman trying to inject additional information on the transcript? Is he suggesting that information has intentionally been left off?
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:45 am to
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White House Ukraine Expert Vindman Sought to “Correct” Transcript of Trump Call

Can you give the Cliff's on this. Does this mean that important information was left off the original transcript or is Vindman trying to inject additional information on the transcript? Is he suggesting that information has intentionally been left off?


He's basically saying if he had been allowed to alter the Transcript he could have made Orange Man Bad....
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14308 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:48 am to
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Looks great for trump if true

How can it be good for Trump if there was conversation not included in the transcription?
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