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Does USC's 2003 AP title carry any legitimacy?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:37 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:37 am
I remember some guy on the ESPN forums, LSUoverUSC, who wrote about 2003 and he said USC has no legitimate claim to the 2003 national championship, even though they were awarded the AP title. What do you think?
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 8:57 am
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:40 am to TulaneLSU
Hell no! You played for the BCS title, not the AP title. End of story. Because it was USC’s first run at a title since 1985, media ran with it.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:41 am to TulaneLSU
LSU has the crystal ball. In the BCS era the crystal ball was/is the National Champion. Now can USC hang a banner for being AP Champions? I guess as a Bama fan it’d be a tad hypocritical if I said no.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:46 am to TulaneLSU
Iirc USC played 0 ranked teams that year.
They were the champions for pencil neck sports journalists who were afraid of the rough and tumble baws of the south
They were the champions for pencil neck sports journalists who were afraid of the rough and tumble baws of the south
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:46 am to TulaneLSU
that 2003 LSU defense woulda made bush, white and leinart look like they belonged in the wac.
same defense that shut down adrian peterson, who is twice the rb of bush and white put together.
edit: forgot peterson was a year later.
same defense that shut down adrian peterson, who is twice the rb of bush and white put together.
edit: forgot peterson was a year later.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:39 am to TulaneLSU
I saw the BCS title game on TV. Southern Cal wasn't in it.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:53 am to TulaneLSU
More than LSU's 2007 title
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:59 am to TulaneLSU
What year is it?
Does Alabama's 1973 and 1978 National Titles carry legitimacy?
They lost to both National Champions yet proudly proclaim it.
I don't remember USC losing to LSU that year like Bama lost to Notre Dame and USC respectively.
But still claim the title.
We were still in the "after the bowls voting age" in 2003 and a vote is a vote.
AP is the longest title awarding institution in history , since 1936.
Every school and fanboy on here claims AP titles.
BCS was a newborn.
Based on computers.
There has never been a #1 team in both polls heading into the bowl games that won their game and wasn't unanimously viewed as the National Champion.
People hated the BCS then, thought it was made up computer phony nonsense and that's why we moved quickly away from it.
BCS didn't gain credibility.
The better question for OP is does the BCS title era still carry legitimacy in what a farce it was and how people hated it. Made up math algorithms that can spout out whatever you put into it...widely varying computer models from 6 different computer generating sites.
It's like, what's going on here? What happened to people who watch the games?
AP had an independent vote as they have since 1936 - and which 90% of National Championships are claimed from throughout history.
I think it's pretty retarded to say a team that was #1 in both polls before the bowl games - by a large margin - title is not legitimate under a computer system that got SHUDDERED the next year as being ridiculous - they totally neutered the power of the computers which nobody understood and were not vetted and were in secret.
Computers remained but they lost their almighty vote and their formulas had to be made public. Early BCS was clown football and just making up this new system as they went along.
USC's title has the weight of 60 years of history.
The BCS title in 2003 had the weight of 5 years of history.
You tell me what's more legitimate? Not LSU's fault, the system was just a retarded newborn infant that sucked and it's why we abandoned it as quickly as possible and people won't care or maybe even remember the horrible BCS era.
Does Alabama's 1973 and 1978 National Titles carry legitimacy?
They lost to both National Champions yet proudly proclaim it.
I don't remember USC losing to LSU that year like Bama lost to Notre Dame and USC respectively.
But still claim the title.
We were still in the "after the bowls voting age" in 2003 and a vote is a vote.
AP is the longest title awarding institution in history , since 1936.
Every school and fanboy on here claims AP titles.
BCS was a newborn.
Based on computers.
There has never been a #1 team in both polls heading into the bowl games that won their game and wasn't unanimously viewed as the National Champion.
People hated the BCS then, thought it was made up computer phony nonsense and that's why we moved quickly away from it.
BCS didn't gain credibility.
The better question for OP is does the BCS title era still carry legitimacy in what a farce it was and how people hated it. Made up math algorithms that can spout out whatever you put into it...widely varying computer models from 6 different computer generating sites.
It's like, what's going on here? What happened to people who watch the games?
AP had an independent vote as they have since 1936 - and which 90% of National Championships are claimed from throughout history.
I think it's pretty retarded to say a team that was #1 in both polls before the bowl games - by a large margin - title is not legitimate under a computer system that got SHUDDERED the next year as being ridiculous - they totally neutered the power of the computers which nobody understood and were not vetted and were in secret.
Computers remained but they lost their almighty vote and their formulas had to be made public. Early BCS was clown football and just making up this new system as they went along.
USC's title has the weight of 60 years of history.
The BCS title in 2003 had the weight of 5 years of history.
You tell me what's more legitimate? Not LSU's fault, the system was just a retarded newborn infant that sucked and it's why we abandoned it as quickly as possible and people won't care or maybe even remember the horrible BCS era.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 2:02 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:26 am to TulaneLSU
It is an AP title. That is all it is.
LSU won the BCS National Championship which is the one that counts.
LSU won the BCS National Championship which is the one that counts.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:51 am to TulaneLSU
frick Pete Carroll. Piece of shite.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:55 am to TulaneLSU
Sure, why not?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:12 am to TulaneLSU
Yes, deal with it
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:13 am to TulaneLSU
No. They were losers
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:20 am to TulaneLSU
It was legitimate. The BCS was so stupid. USC was #1 in both polls in 2003. And in 2004 an undefeated SEC team was denied an opportunity to play for the bcs title. It was a terrible, terrible system.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:07 am to TulaneLSU
It's as legitimate as UCF's claim. Seriously. They're bot acceptable titles by the NCAA.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:08 am to TulaneLSU
LSU was the on-field and BCS champions. USC was the on-paper media champion. I know which one objectively carries more weight, but the answer to your question just depends on who you ask and where they're from.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:16 am to TulaneLSU
No, USC was nothing but a paper champion who couldn’t make it to the national championship game.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:35 am to TulaneLSU
No, it doesn’t.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 11:39 am to TulaneLSU
quote:
Does USC's 2003 AP title carry any legitimacy?
It carries as much legitimacy as the LSU BcS championship.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:24 pm to TulaneLSU
LSU is the 2003 National Champions. Period.
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