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re: What constitutes being an alcoholic or drunkard

Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:30 am to
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:30 am to
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And if you say you're an alcoholic for asking you can frickk right off immediately mfer.


Do you ask people if you’re a bullfrog?




And why is that?

If you have to ask, you know the answer.
But I appreciate your effort in fighting it. I did the exact same.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10515 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:32 am to
I always defined an alcoholic as someone who can't control their desires. Someone who has to hide it because it's not an appropriate time to consume or that can't stop when they should (i.e. they have to drive home or watch after their children). I drink a whiskey or a couple beers 5-6 nights a week, but I don't have to. I don't let the thought of 'when' control my thoughts. I honestly really enjoy the taste and the way it takes the edge off. If I go to a wedding or some other social gathering, I can stop at any time if I feel I've had too much. I might be wrong in my definition, and I certainly don't want to dumb it down for those suffering, because I understand it is definitely a real disorder that many people have. Many people in my family in fact.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36244 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:38 am to
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Physical addiction. You can have a drinking problem and not be addicted.


Meh. Slippery slope. You can drink three times a year and be an alcoholic.. it all depends on what happens when you drink those three times.

For a general rule, if alcohol is getting first place treatment over family, desires, goals, God, rest, or health and you have that feeling of selfishness, you might have a problem.

If you don’t think you’re an alcoholic, just quit drinking all together.
Can you? Do you want to?
Those are important questions
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 8:03 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15430 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:39 am to
I have at least 2 cocktails every night after dinner and don't think anything of it. I've not been stumble-bum drunk in ages, have given it up yearly for Lent with no ill effects or crazy urges to drink while taking the break.

Have I had a buzz, sure, but never to the point I'm rude to people, couldn't carry on a civil conversation or not function like a normal human being.

Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36244 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:41 am to
Drinking every day doesn’t make you an alcoholic. I have some close friends that do it and they’re normal drinkers.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71771 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:44 am to
It's like anything else. If it interferes with your relationships or your work, if you're spending money you can't afford on booze and not paying your bills, etc, you have a problem.

Posted by Rammin TX
DFW Texas
Member since Oct 2018
1736 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:44 am to
Started out drinking at a young age. Started drinking at home by myself. Been doing that for 30 years. First a few, then a 6 pack, then a 6 pack IPA. Started gaining weight so when to vodka. Then to bourbon.

Long story short ended up 15 oz bourbon every effin night.

It creeps up on you.

Now on doctor supervised withdrawals with meds. day day 9 no alcohol
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15430 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:44 am to
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Drinking every day doesn’t make you an alcoholic. I have some close friends that do it and they’re normal drinkers.


That's exactly how I think of myself. I've been around enough alcoholics in my life to know what one is.

I have a brother-in-law, now in AA for the past 4 years, that started his day with a cup of coffee than carried the cup around topped off with whiskey until around noon like nobody noticed. Then he'd switch off to beer and in the evening, back to whiskey. It ruled his life.

Posted by BaconGrease
Memphis Tenn
Member since Jun 2013
765 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:51 am to
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quote:
And if you say you're an alcoholic for asking you can frickk right off immediately mfer.



Do you ask people if you’re a bullfrog?




And why is that?

If you have to ask, you know the answer.
But I appreciate your effort in fighting it. I did the exact same.





By this logic every one that likes to drink is an alcoholic and I don't believe that. I'm asking because there has to be a line drawn somewhere

Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1595 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:58 am to
I only label people alcoholics when they either can't hold down a job because they go to work after drinking, or their family is financially strapped because they drink all the money away. A six pack a day and a 5th on the weekends doesn't make you a alcoholic if you are not tipsy at work and you can afford it. The proof is in the pudding to me.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36244 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 7:59 am to
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By this logic every one that likes to drink is an alcoholic


what?

Not everyone that drinks asks if they’re an alcoholic.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36244 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:01 am to
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I only label people alcoholics when they either can't hold down a job because they go to work after drinking, or their family is financially strapped because they drink all the money away. A six pack a day and a 5th on the weekends doesn't make you a alcoholic if you are not tipsy at work and you can afford it. The proof is in the pudding to me.


One can be a “fully functioning alcoholic.”
It would never show on the outside.
But it can sure as hell shows on the inside. In your mind is where the damage is done and it usually spills out onto other facets of your life.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:10 am to
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I'm an alcoholic, for whatever reason when I get drunk or buzzed I wanna drive around and throw beer bottles at cop cars...always have.


Well said! Who doesn't love doing that!!

Antifa had to go and put a political slant on it, fak those guys!
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57572 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:10 am to
When drinking causes a problem in your life and you continue to do it like poor job performance, legal troubles, not being yourself due to hangovers or loss of a relationship. A normal drinker would say to themselves "damn, I should slow down or stop drinking for a bit," while an alcoholic will just continue on

Obviously the withdrawals as well but at that point you're already fricked
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57572 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:18 am to
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The idea that every hard drinker ends up in the gutter is pure marketing propaganda from the rehab industry.


I would love for you to elaborate on this
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1595 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:33 am to
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it usually spills out onto other facets of your life.


Until it does, I keep the term "alcoholic" in my pocket. Inside damage doesn't concern me because there are several things that do that to us eg. bad food, smoking, dust, noise, stress.
I have no problems with a "fully functioning alcoholic", its none of my business and IMO does not need intervention. Now that doesn't mean I would want to marry that person.
Plenty of poor decisions keep people stalled out in life, but until they start going in reverse, I will hold my judgement.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31636 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:34 am to
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I just like to drink. Mainly out of boredom


this is a problem. alcoholism covers a broad spectrum of abuses and causes and effects.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36244 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:35 am to
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because there are several things that do that to us eg. bad food, smoking,


..sex, shopping, gambling, etc. and you would be addicted to that also.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51512 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:49 am to
B/c of family history of multiple generations of alcoholics, I'm like 4 times more likely to be an alcoholic. And I could feel like I would lose control and act like a moron when I drank in college and the couple years after, so I just gave it up in my mid-20s.

Alcoholics have no control.
This post was edited on 10/21/19 at 8:55 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19784 posts
Posted on 10/21/19 at 8:54 am to
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