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Which group will likely tilt the St. George vote? It's all about undecided voters
Posted on 9/18/19 at 6:48 am
Posted on 9/18/19 at 6:48 am
The Advocate
The way the article is formed up makes it sound like right now it sits very close to 50-50 split. Based on yard signs and overall opinions on NextDoor, I'd say it's probably closer to 70-30 for the incorporation.
So the opposition finally realized that calling us racists, among other names, was not winning converts to their side. lol
That's good and all, but projects slated =/= projects prioritized or completed. Being that it is a parish wide initiative, it should be distributed in accordance to where the big demands on the current infrastructure are.
The way the article is formed up makes it sound like right now it sits very close to 50-50 split. Based on yard signs and overall opinions on NextDoor, I'd say it's probably closer to 70-30 for the incorporation.
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Neither side is willing to share their data with The Advocate, despite numerous requests. The city-parish leaders say pocketbook issues will resonate best with yet-undecided voters who will settle the question of whether to create the parish's fifth municipality in the southeastern corner of the parish. St. George backers say their research indicates a need for "better government" and local control of taxes collected from the area.
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"Our polling data shows people want to understand how it's going to affect their pocketbook," said Darryl Gissel, the city-parish's chief administrative officer. "The more information we give them about that, the more against it they become." Drew Murrell, an attorney and spokesman for the St. George movement, says polling numbers it received two months ago validate a message of "better government, more local control of tax dollars and no additional taxes."
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A 2015 incorporation effort failed when supporters didn't obtain enough signatures to place the issue before voters. In their recent petition drive, St. George supporters carved out a number of areas for its proposed city and, in doing so, created boundaries around an area that is only 12 percent black. The initial boundary was about 20 percent black. At a meeting with The Advocate's editorial board last week, city-parish leaders said the best topic to push with voters was the economic impact, not that the racial makeup of the proposed new city had changed.
So the opposition finally realized that calling us racists, among other names, was not winning converts to their side. lol
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Gissel said those in St. George who complain about receiving less for their money should realize that 33% of the infrastructure projects Broome included in her more than $1 billion MovEBR roads improvement plan last year are located within the St. George area. The region makes up about 20 percent of the parish's population.
That's good and all, but projects slated =/= projects prioritized or completed. Being that it is a parish wide initiative, it should be distributed in accordance to where the big demands on the current infrastructure are.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 6:50 am
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 6:51 am to Areddishfish
St. George is happening and everyone knows it.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 6:59 am to Rock the Casbah
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St. George is happening and everyone knows it.
Do the people who live in the area that would make up St George the only ones allowed to vote?
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:00 am to Rock the Casbah
If St George wins I will miss being called a low informed voter, the Taliban and a racist. Lol!
Yes, only people legally registered to vote inside the proposed city can vote for it.
Dead people should not be able to vote.
I assume they will find a way to vote against it.
Yes, only people legally registered to vote inside the proposed city can vote for it.
Dead people should not be able to vote.
I assume they will find a way to vote against it.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 7:06 am
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:04 am to Areddishfish
I think that ship has sailed.
“Undecided” voters at this point are St George voters who don’t want to say so because they don’t want to be harassed.
“Undecided” voters at this point are St George voters who don’t want to say so because they don’t want to be harassed.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:04 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Do the people who live in the area that would make up St George the only ones allowed to vote?
I believe so. Pretty sure the boundaries were adjusted based on the results of the first petition so most precincts that wouldn’t vote for incorporation were removed.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:07 am to Rock the Casbah
A lot of rental property was removed for somewhat related reasons, as signatures of people who lived in the area but moved ended up being disqualified thanks to an aggressive campaign by TBR.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:15 am to Areddishfish
I live about 1/4 of a mile away from the St.G boundary line and I’m for St.G.
I want the vote to pass, and it’s the wake up call that EBR needs to have.
I want the vote to pass, and it’s the wake up call that EBR needs to have.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:17 am to Modern
EBR will hit the snooze button.
This may save their asses though, since it will keep money in EBR as opposed to Livingston or Ascension.
This may save their asses though, since it will keep money in EBR as opposed to Livingston or Ascension.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:19 am to Areddishfish
Lipsey is bombarding hones with mail outs telling people they could lose sheriff services, drainage services, sewer services and your taxes are going up. Unfortunately these kind of scare taxes can work.
Proponents need to educate their neighbors and call out the BS. The opposition will only get more outrageous.
Proponents need to educate their neighbors and call out the BS. The opposition will only get more outrageous.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:23 am to doubleb
It would be an awful shame if someone started distributing a flyer claiming that a registered sex offender lived at Lipsey’s address.
It would have as much truth as his mailers.
It would have as much truth as his mailers.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:40 am to Rock the Casbah
quote:It won't even be close.... I love the NO ST GEORGE ... NO NEW TAXES signs.... from the municipality with the highest sales tax in the SE if not the nation..... and wanting more.
St. George is happening and everyone knows it.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:40 am to Areddishfish
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Gissel said those in St. George who complain about receiving less for their money should realize that 33% of the infrastructure projects Broome included in her more than $1 billion MovEBR roads improvement plan last year are located within the St. George area. The region makes up about 20 percent of the parish's population.
Now do the % of tax money St. George contributes to EBRuh, or would that be higher than 33% and not look good for the article.
It's going to pass with flying colors, and anyone that thinks its going to be close, or not pass, is an idiot.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:48 am to Areddishfish
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I'd say it's probably closer to 70-30 for the incorporation.
That's probably pretty accurate. The key factor is that only those who would be in the intended city limits of St. George are allowed to vote on it. If Broom had gotten her way it would have been a parish-wide vote and thus failed.
The Advocate piece is part wishful thinking and part hype to sell another paper or get another website click.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:54 am to TeddyPadillac
Its all about Freedom, tyrants will be tyrants. I wish I was in the St.George boundaries.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:02 am to Areddishfish
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The way the article is formed up makes it sound like right now it sits very close to 50-50 split.
If the Advocate is making it sound 50/50 you can bet your arse there are more in favor of St George. If they thought it was a split they’d be telling people it will never pass to discourage them.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:03 am to Areddishfish
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The way the article is formed up makes it sound like right now it sits very close to 50-50 split. Based on yard signs and overall opinions on NextDoor, I'd say it's probably closer to 70-30 for the incorporation.
That's incredibly anecdotal. I'd say the people involved in Nextdoor would be the target demographic of the STG movement but there are literal thousands of ppl who do not participate in either activity.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 8:07 am
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:11 am to OysterPoBoy
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If the Advocate is making it sound 50/50 you can bet your arse there are more in favor of St George
Didn’t they say neither side shared their poll numbers?
So how do they know undecideds will make the difference?
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:21 am to Areddishfish
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pocketbook issues will resonate best
Id take my chances with a better local government and less money, than more money and idiot local leaders. Look at Jackson MS if you want to see where BR is headed with these loons.
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:22 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Do the people who live in the area that would make up St George the only ones allowed to vote?
Every registered voter in the area. Although the mayor thinks the only people who can vote are the ones who signed the petition lol #shedumb
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