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Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:14 am
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:14 am
Saban at #1 is a given. I don't think anyone can argue with that, but it gets a little muddy after that. Has Orgeron coached/managed his way into the conversation for #2? I wouldn't put him there quite yet, but I feel like he's damn close. Top 5 no doubt. You can give all the credit to Brady, Burrow, Aranda - whatever, but Orgeron MUST be credited with recognizing problems and bringing/retaining those guys.
It took me awhile to feel comfortable saying this, but I strongly feel like LSU got the perfect HC for US. Would O be great elsewhere? Possibly some places, possibly not at others, but he's definitely becoming a great one for LSU. I'm excited to see the future of the program under his guidance.
It took me awhile to feel comfortable saying this, but I strongly feel like LSU got the perfect HC for US. Would O be great elsewhere? Possibly some places, possibly not at others, but he's definitely becoming a great one for LSU. I'm excited to see the future of the program under his guidance.
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:16 am to Laman1978
Yes. Yes he is.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:21 am to Laman1978
His ability and willingness to try new things if something isn’t working has made him much more endearing for sure.
Some coaches absolutely refuse to change and just keep doing the same crap even when it’s painfully obvious that it no longer works.
For not being that stubborn jackass, he gets my vote.
#NeverbAstubbornjackass
Some coaches absolutely refuse to change and just keep doing the same crap even when it’s painfully obvious that it no longer works.
For not being that stubborn jackass, he gets my vote.
#NeverbAstubbornjackass
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:22 am to Laman1978
He is well on his way. This year will determine that.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:37 am to Laman1978
Takes a few years to decide these things. I would say he's headed that direction.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:43 am to Laman1978
As of right now you have to put smart ahead of O.
Smart has won the SEC, got to the playoffs and made it to the NC game.
His resume is better but O could change that this year.
O is no lower than 3 right now though
Smart has won the SEC, got to the playoffs and made it to the NC game.
His resume is better but O could change that this year.
O is no lower than 3 right now though
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:43 am to Laman1978
I love what he’s doing right now. I hope he continues it when his staff moves on. It’s inivatible, but i believe he will reload on staff
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:49 am to Laman1978
Flip your question around. What reason are there not to rank him in the top three in the SEC? Phrased like that it becomes a clearer yes, that as of now he is top 3 in the SEC.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:52 am to Laman1978
Time will tell. More importantly, we upgraded the coaching position. We never would have gotten here with Miles. Disappointing it took so long.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:59 am to Laman1978
His best year is 10-3. That is better than all but a few. Mullen has done as well at an inferior program. Kirby has done better at a similar program. Then there is Saban. Gus has done a LOT better, but he’s been wildly inconsistent. I’m putting him fifth, behind those four. If he makes the playoffs he vaults past Gus and Mullen and ties Kirby. That assumes none of them make the playoffs.
Anyway, not enough data yet. Give him two more years. 2017 me is amazed 2019 me is saying those words!
Anyway, not enough data yet. Give him two more years. 2017 me is amazed 2019 me is saying those words!
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:01 am to Laman1978
At best he’s fourth, but arguably lower. Until he wins an SEC Championship and/or makes it to the NC game he cannot he ranked above other coaches who have.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:13 am to Laman1978
This is something that's probably better revisited after the season. A lot can happen between now and then.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:14 am to Laman1978
Oh stop
Eta: list the championships he has won.
Week 2 championships don't count.
Eta: list the championships he has won.
Week 2 championships don't count.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 8:15 am
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:22 am to Laman1978
Orgeron was not a fancy hire because he was a position coach. But if you look at what is expected of a Head Coach, Orgeron checks a lot of boxes. The difference between him in the past and the present is he has matured enough to check his ego at the door. Orgeron is not a great Offensive or defensive coordinator which is why he was a position coach. He has some talented coaches doing that for him and he is allowing them to do their thing.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:23 am to Laman1978
Winning ten games with last years o line and no depth on D line already tells you that Orgeron is a top 2 or 3 coach.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:30 am to Laman1978
No. He’s at best #5 behind Saban, Mullen, Jimbo and Smart. They’ve all accomplished something of value and meaning. O has not.
Technically we’ve malzahn could be rated higher seeing as he has accomplished more of value than O despite his team’s underperforming the last couple of seasons.
Technically we’ve malzahn could be rated higher seeing as he has accomplished more of value than O despite his team’s underperforming the last couple of seasons.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:36 am to Laman1978
He is at this time.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:37 am to Laman1978
How many SEC championship games has he coached in?
He’s doing a good job, but let’s not crown his arse for beating a Texas team we were all laughing at a week ago.
He’s doing a good job, but let’s not crown his arse for beating a Texas team we were all laughing at a week ago.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:43 am to Laman1978
If he wins the SEC we can start this discussion. Until then it should be tabled.
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