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re: Ben Watson Agrees With Jemele Hill Regarding HBCU's

Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:53 pm to
Who is Ben Watson?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:54 pm to
No lol ??
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:57 pm to
They do so by grade fixing

Many of these schools have single % graduation rates
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:06 pm to
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I’m disappointed he agrees with her piece because she seems to advocate for self-segregation


I'm not saying I agree with Jemele or Watson on this issue. Don't even really care to read her article.

That being said, don't people on this board, the OT and the poliboard advocate for self-segregation daily?

We all make fun of hipsters and millennials who move into rough neighborhoods and whites generally leave an area once enough non-whites move in. What's the issue with self segregation? Whites and non-whites have been self segregating without government intervention for decades.

ETA: I wouldn't advocate for athletes (or anyone really) to go to an HBCU if they have the opportunity to go to a top state/private university. I guess going to an HBCU might be better than doing nothing at all but

Just simply asking why some people are up in arms about "advocating for self segregation".
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 6:13 pm
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:11 pm to
Ben got a has a great point... it’s probably not practical... but he has a point... it’s not really hard to imagine LSU having all white players and going 0-12 ...
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:53 pm to
Solid refutation.

Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:55 pm to
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They do so by grade fixing



So, like other schools.

I’m not gonna ask for a link or evidence. I know Amadeo, etc will demand that. Lol
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Many of these schools have single % graduation rates



What percentage?

Let me help you out. The largest share of successful black college grads went to HBCUs.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 7:00 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:55 pm to
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Douchebags do douchebag things. Congrats in upholding your d-bag status, no matter what the board.


What a melt. Over nothing.

Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 6:57 pm to
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Not when it's a statement pulled completely out of your arse without a link of any kind to back up your assertion.


It’s funny how you don’t demand that of those making assertions you agree with.

And links were provided.
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What pleasure do you take just for the sake of sounding all woke and shite. Your contributions to this board have been very tedious.


Sounding woke? Are you nuts?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:00 pm to
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The largest share of successful black college grads went to HBCUs.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
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black students are more likely to feel supported and be engaged in work after graduation if they attend historically black colleges and universities.

Your “research” is based on feels?

And your second link is NPR and the epitome of soft bigotry
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:04 pm to
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This board is about to freak the frick out. Watson was “one of them” they liked


Wrong. They are so enlightened that they didn’t even know Ben Watson was black. They don’t see color, remember? Only racists see color.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:07 pm to
Solid refutation
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Your “research” is based on feels?


Nope.


Do you call customer satisfaction feels? Jfc
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And your second link is NPR and the epitome of soft bigotry


Ad Homs are weak. Either address the content or stfu.

But, chew on this. About 10 percent of black college students attend HBCU. Yet they produce 25% of all Stem grads.

And Xavier graduates more STEM than ANY OTHER SCHOOL.

I know. They are all just being passed through.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:12 pm to
Solid refutation.

You are a student? Lol
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 7:13 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95938 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:17 pm to
I honestly don’t know how exactly to refute your points they are so ludicrous

Studies have shown the average high school grad is better off going straight into the work force than going to an HBCU.....And that’s compared to only HBCU grads, not even those that don’t graduate
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 7:19 pm
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:19 pm to
Ben Watson isn't wrong; there isn't much in Hill's article that can be seen as promoting segregation. It's more a speculative article as to how HBCUs could be invigorated if black athletes chose to attend them instead of P5 schools. It's a pipe dream, of course, HBCUs do not have the infrastructure to compete with bigger schools and your average 4 and 5 star recruits don't have HBCUs on their radar.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 7:19 pm to
But how do those grads Feel though?
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