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re: Obama returns to fight GOP Gerrymandering
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:36 am to stFrancisville
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:36 am to stFrancisville
Democrats are stupid to realize that redistricting will just cause capital flight out of the areas that turn blue. It's hilarious watching these people squirm over human behavioural changes to changes in government.
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Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:38 am to AggieHank86
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Where did I say this?
Here
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So the GOP gerrymandered these districts on purpose, to give the Democrats their own district to shut them up?
Have you ever worked in a state legislature? I have. The answer to your question is “yes, but not to shut them up.”. You do it to remove opposition voters from surrounding Districts.
And the reason i frame this is because you are quick to defend the Dems at every turn. Historically, this is your MO on this board. If you were another poster, i'd phrase the question differently.
I mean seriously, is it just coincidence that the most gerrymandered districts are Democrat?
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 9:40 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:39 am to BugAC
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Who created the district formations as they currently sit? Who runs these districts?
The States do
Posted on 8/27/19 at 9:55 am to BugAC
quote:Of course not. Most of them are “minority opportunity districts.”. It is simple demographics.
is it just coincidence that the most gerrymandered districts are Democrat?
But some were created by Dem legislatures and some by GOP legislatures, for VASTLY different reasons.
Stop acting like a blind partisan and actually do some objective analysis.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:00 am to BugAC
Those two districts in NC are horrendous.
The Dems got all up in arms in these parts because the district that includes Asheville was redrawn after the last election.
The only people that win these damn fights are the attorneys for both sides.
The Dems got all up in arms in these parts because the district that includes Asheville was redrawn after the last election.
The only people that win these damn fights are the attorneys for both sides.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:06 am to AggieHank86
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Of course not. Most of them are “minority opportunity districts.”. It is simple demographics.
Explain that. That it is "simple demographics".
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Stop acting like a blind partisan and actually do some objective analysis.
Oh, you mean like you?
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:22 am to BugAC
quote:Minorities are ... wait for it ... in the minority. Outside the central cities, it is hard to find 750M of them living in a closely-contiguous area. Thus, when you are trying to create a “minority opportunity District” (for either of the reasons outlined above) it is more likely that you must create Districts in odd and tortured shapes.quote:Explain that.
Of course not. Most of them are “minority opportunity districts.”. It is simple demographics.
When Dems are creating a GOP district (to protect surrounding Dem Districts) they need not work NEARLY as hard to find contiguous territory, So the shapes of the districts do not look nearly as odd.
You really should do some reading on this topic.
The fact that six of the 10 above-referenced “worst-gerrymandered” districts are located in Red-controlled state simply demonstrates you don’t understand this issue very well.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:27 am to AggieHank86
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AggieHank86
So by simple demographics, what you mean to say is, hand picked, or "gerry mandered" areas to encapsulate a Democrat vote, correct?
And exactly, why doesn't the GOP have to work so hard to gerry mander? Is it because, they can rely on common sense districting to get a true representation of the area?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:28 am to stFrancisville
quote:What was that quote.... Oh yes.
Obama returns to fight GOP Gerrymandering
"Elections have consequences."
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:00 am to stFrancisville
He’s never left. Community organizing continues to push us over a cliff.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:01 pm to BugAC
have you seen cedric richardson's district here in LA? Thats exactly what the GOP did here.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:05 pm to CptRusty
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Gerrymandering is a bipartisan problem.
I'd suggest it is a political process and not a problem at all. If R owns the executive and legislature in a state after the census, then they get to redistrict. The Supreme Court ruled recently they want to stay out of this State process. As I've said when it comes to the state after the census, to the winner go the spoils. You think Obama wants it to be fair? I wonder why GW Bush doesn't lift a finger to help his side. At least one can say Obama is motivated.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 12:10 pm to AggieHank86
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HANK LOVES MIKE THE TIGER!
Keep your Hank love away from our Tiger. It's bad enough that y'all give your collie the Rex treatment.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 2:38 pm to AggieHank86
so only republicans gerrymander
only republicans can be racist
just like the democrats never fought against segregation and did not start the klan
only republicans can be racist
just like the democrats never fought against segregation and did not start the klan
Posted on 8/27/19 at 2:41 pm to AggieHank86
This was Cleo Fields district
Exclusively to be a minority district
Exclusively to be a minority district
Posted on 8/27/19 at 2:52 pm to pollosucks
quote:And you interpret that as me saying
Most of them are “minority opportunity districts.”. It is simple demographics.
But some were created by Dem legislatures and some by GOP legislatures, for VASTLY different reasons.
Stop acting like a blind partisan and actually do some objective analysis.
quote:You people are well and truly unhinged.
only republicans gerrymander ... only republicans can be racist
Posted on 8/27/19 at 3:04 pm to AggieHank86
Which party (or ideology) is responsible for "minority opportunity districts"?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 3:47 pm to AggieHank86
Ill give Hank an upvote as well he is correct.
You fellas are a little harsh on him.
You fellas are a little harsh on him.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 5:13 pm to BugAC
The difference is the GOP gerrymanders to silence minorities. Democrats gerrymander to empower minorities. That’s how the left sees it.
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