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re: I don’t get it- How is Louisiana failing this bad?

Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112740 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:07 pm to
Politicians can only do so much with the population they’re given

Not that ours have ever done anything worth a shite but there’s no denying the populace here is going to always hold back the state
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:08 pm to
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He's an art kid...REALLY talented. My wife and I have been steering him away from strictly some art major into something more skill oriented given the rest of his grades and abilities...like architecture.

If your son has a creative side, try and get him interested in HTML and CSS coding. Possessing the ability to code in web development will always guarantee him a job, regardless of what specialization he pursues academically.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48800 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Not that ours have ever done anything worth a shite but there’s no denying the populace here is going to always hold back the state

I've always looked at a state like Georgia which is pretty similar to Louisiana demographically. They are +/- Louisiana maybe 2-3% yet it's a far better state.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15218 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:29 pm to
Sounds like you've weighed the options and will move. There is nothing wrong with that nor should you have to necessarily stay where you went to school and college. My dad grew up in California and moved to Louisiana in the 60s. You won't be the last to choose a similar path. It's exciting to find a new place to move to and settle in. Move close to the mountains or hills or close to a nice lake. Congratulations on the catharsis and for making the hard choice!

PS: You may want to choose a place with a nice climate. I spent some time this summer in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Colorado. There is something to be said for nice moderate temperatures. You can even camp out in those places in the summer. Don't limit yourself to the south and use a credit card that rewards in airline frequent flyer miles for your visits.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32018 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:49 pm to
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For instance, Huntsville’s public schools are meh. OP will be in Madison (which is fine) and AL’s state government is just as inept as LA.



I mean take for instance Alabama. The university itself and auburn are leaving LSU behind not just in athletics.

The state has attracted Mercedes Toyota Honda hyundai
Airbus
Uabs hospital/research blows anything from Louisiana out of the water
Regions and bbva Compass are headquartered in Alabama
Huntsville is a major center for nasa


Louisiana is barely hanging on to its largest headquartered company in centurylink


I love Louisiana and will probably be back someday but everywhere other than Mississippi is leaving it behind unfortunately. I will ignore that because it’s home but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 2:50 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48800 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:53 pm to
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I mean take for instance Alabama. The university itself and auburn are leaving LSU behind not just in athletics.

LSU ranked above Alabama in that Forbes article a few days ago. Football success does not equal academic success. Louisiana ranks above Alabama in per capita income and education.

Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, most of Arkansas is splitting hairs. There isn't a whole lot of difference. We love to call the other one a shithole. Meanwhile the rest of the country is saying the same thing about all of us
Posted by 385 Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
246 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:53 pm to
The state constitution is locked down because no one trusts the legislature to manage the money.

Louisiana is very middle of the pack on per person tax receipts, so we have at least as much money per person as many states. Yet we are still near the bottom on every list.
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 2:57 pm to
Compare Jefferson Parish public schools to Comal County ISD and report back.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 3:48 pm to
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I've always looked at a state like Georgia which is pretty similar to Louisiana demographically. They are +/- Louisiana maybe 2-3% yet it's a far better state.


A little jaded... Metro Atlanta accounts for virtually all the brain capital and 80% of the GDP. Outside of Savannah, the state as a whole isn't any better than the rest of the south.
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13442 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 5:31 pm to
Lewzianer cares about about mardi gras and partying.
It also prides itself in being backwards and undesirable.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
2797 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 5:36 pm to
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Wisconsin


quote:

moderate temperatures



There’s nothing moderate about Wisconsin weather during the winter. And spring sucks too.

I miss Wisconsin weather June - August. NC has far better weather the other 9 months
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47823 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 5:43 pm to
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Always chuckle when people compare EBR/Nola public schools to Texas suburbs ISDs
nobody does... We compare Ascension/Livingston/St. Tammany/St. Charles to the ISDs
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48800 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 5:47 pm to
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nobody does... We compare Ascension/Livingston/St. Tammany/St. Charles to the ISDs

Almost everyone does this. The number one knock from someone that left Louisiana is "you don't have to pay for private school here!". Posted from some suburb the equivalent of Mandeville after they left inner city New Orleans or Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 5:57 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15789 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 6:28 pm to
Yes and no... I'm stationed in Valdosta and although the demographics are tilted heavily towards minorities, it's a very safe town with a pretty good economy... I can't wait to leave though. Weather sucks.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 6:50 pm to
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nobody does... We compare Ascension/Livingston/St. Tammany/St. Charles to the ISDs



90% of the talk about schools in LA vs TX is “I’m saving 20 grand a year just on school in my wonderful sprawling TX suburb”
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8723 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 8:38 pm to
CHANGE OUT THE POLITICIANS........
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15218 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 8:48 pm to
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There’s nothing moderate about Wisconsin weather during the winter. And spring sucks too.


I know that! But all things considered I'd rather bundle up in the winter than sweat my arse off in the summer. All choices require compromise unless someone wants to live in San Diego. But then there are Californians to deal with. Looks like you made the hard choice to move away from your home and college state.
This post was edited on 8/18/19 at 8:51 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:01 pm to
Welcome to the dark side.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:35 am to
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The people in that mass of land between Georgia and Mississippi's heads are so far in the sand, it's laughable.


You make many good points that I wholeheartedly agree with (and many pertain not just to some of the AL residents), but you lose all credibility when you commit the exact same atrocities that you are so brutally condemning the people of Alabama with: When you apply broadscale generalities and sweeping, defamatory statements across an entire group of peoples, if reasonable men- no matter their color- are lending their ear as to make judgement on who the winner is, then you will most certainly lose the fight every time.

You are obviously an insightful man, and you are, obviously, far too narrowly focused on the matter of racism, the prejudices derived from it, and of the effects that both have on society (whether real, percieved or contrived)- and in this particular case, on the society in Alabama. You're not seeing the forest for the trees.

When you level such sweeping, all-inclusive and injurious judgement upon the head of a nearly 5 million-strong chunk of humanity like you've just done, and when you do it with the air of committed finality like that of dictator like you've just done, then you've become a deeply prejudiced man.

You realize that, don't you?

You realize that you even sound like a prejudiced man, don't you?

Humanity belongs to every human being, both collectively and individually. Like every other species, we humans are all alike in many ways, but unlike most other species, every single one of us is absolutely unique as well. What you've done is apply a subjective perception of a people to the person, and you cannot- you should not- do that.

If you do that, if you compartmentalize 5 million people, if you neatly & comfortably tuck them all into the little "boxes" that the worldview from within your own mind says they ought to be in, then you run the risk of becoming another Edgar Ray Killen: Black or white, southern or northern, if a man fits into the narrative of the "box" that your mind has placed him into, then he'll easily fit into the earthen dam-turned-mass grave that you've dug for he and the others.

By the laws of what is good and right, Alabamians- an Alabamian- deserves to be respected for his humanity- nothing more, nothing less- and you've no right to lay claim as being the one man in history to say otherwise.

Besides, the all-encompassing state and regional problems that we all speak of here now, as before and hereafter, has nothing to do with racism, but instead classism. You'd find more clarity (and clarity for me is as clear as mud) the sooner that you realize this. This comes from a man who, like many, abhors the n word as filth, racism, unequal treatment to another and his dignity, and who will give the friends and family that are his people in his community and who happen to be black the shirt off his back and never tell a soul about it (and they will do the same 100 fold when I need it): the problem is classism.

And the problem with classism is that no form of socialism, communism, capitalism, etc., will EVER eradicate it off the face of the earth: Even 5000 years ago, deep in the darkest depths of the Congo lived a male silverback who had his lot in life, and, usually, there's not a damned thing he as an individual gorilla could've ever done about it- not in the big scheme of things like you speak of. Sure, for some humans upward mobility is real and it's there for the taking (albeit less so, hence the subject of the thread) for a select few like we Americans, but even then, the truly "rags to riches" fairytales that bring widespread influence and power along with it are, statistically, just that: fairytales.

And therein lies the problem with places like AL, MS and LA and with your worldview on the individuals who live there: Their problem- our problem, in this specific case as southerners who are subject to the ramifications of history but also more generally as regular citizens- has been magnified by a ruling class who also happens to be the elite. We're headed back to the same fate that the poor silverback had: there's not a damned thing that any individual Alabamian can ever do about these things until (and not unless) the time is nigh for cause-and-effect to take place in order to change what was thought to be, "destiny."

There are many good & reasonable men and women in Alabama, albeit nowhere near as many as are in Mississippi, but they're there- I'm sure of it.

And until the time is nigh where one (or a few) of them is chosen to begin the turning of the spokes of history's wheels to unseat the elite ruling class so that we can rinse and repeat, then you ought not be so critical of all 5 million of them.

Not unless you're ready to accept the fact that the premise is flawed and ignorant and prejudice.

(And btw, as an aside, I wholeheartedly disagree that taxpayers ought not have any and all right to criticize a public university. The University of Alabama is in the business of making money, yes, but when the cash flows are overwhelmingly derived from loans funded by you and I on a, "guaranteed" basis, then we've got skin in the game. Period, end of story.)
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
403 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:51 am to
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I left BR very reluctantly, but until I did, I didn’t know how bad things there were there compared to my new state.
I miss friends, the food and BR water, but on balance, getting out when I did was the best thing for my family.

This.

You ever had a job that you felt was fine but then you made a lateral move to another company and realized how bad the other place was? Comparable salary/benefits/hours but the functional infrastructure and culture in the new place improved your whole quality of life you didn't realize you were missing out on in the old place. You also realize how much more you can do or be when you no longer have to compensate or create work arounds to just do your job or simply not accept the bull because that is how things were.

I don't fault people for staying in Louisiana for whatever reason but when dysfunction is your normal, you don't realize how bad it really is.
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