re: The Boys on Amazon Prime - Out now

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His skin didn't change it's composition...

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Maybe the skin itself was so strong that it contained the energy from the bomb, causing a much stronger explosion.

Like Billy Bob said in Armageddon. Imagine a firecracker resting on your palm, then imagine a firecracker in your closed fist

And if you think about it, the skin wasn't destroyed, it was still largely in a couple big pieces.

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I agree. One thing I noticed during that scene was that she seemed excited to see Homelander and shocked to see Billy. If she had been raped you would think it would be the reverse.

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Aye. Becca didn’t have that zombie look when she walked out of that hotel room. She had the look of complete and utter guilt. She was definitely starry eyed and wanted the Super dick. And she didn’t just frick the psychopath. She boned him for three hours. Total count move. I dunno about excited though so much as surprised which turned to horror when seeing Billy.

I don’t think Homelander does duplicity outside of his goals with the media. I think he relishes in ugly truths. He enjoyed telling Butcher the truth. Enjoys having had a kid with his wife. Dudes a cold mofo. And his wife... dumb broad.

From what I gather (haven’t read the comics, YET, but I know a few details) they’re taking creative license so they aren’t telling exactly the same story as in the comics.

Stillwell was apparently male in the books. So that’s a huge change alone.

I think this puts Butcher down a darker path in season two. All those years spent angry over a wife not actually raped but a cheating hoe that got pregnant? Mind frick.

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We are supposed to be horrified that Homelander lets a plane-full of people die, but then accept when Butcher is willing to use babies as a bargaining tool?

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I don't think we're supposed to accept that at all. In fact, I'd say it'd be weird if you did.

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This isn’t true, like at all. Very obviously Starlight and Huey care about others. Deeper cares about fishes and shite. Billy really cared about his wife. Maeve actually tried to save civilians and hated homelander for the plane crash, helps out starlight etc. milk man and frenchie care about their family / that Asian terrorist/supe. Yea most of these people also want revenge but is that “inhuman”? It’s mostly just A-train, Stillwater, and homelander “without humanity” . Seeming to act of pure selfishness. And yes it is more devastating that supe would essentially kill a plane full of people than billy trying to bargain with the homelander’s “family” for revenge against the evil corporate supers.

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Each character you mentioned is motivated by their own selfish needs, their own families, revenge, etc. Not about humanity in general. Frenchie is the closest to actually caring about other human-beings without selfish intent, but even then the Chinese woman is shown as animalistic and something to be feared (Frenchie withstanding).

Billy is definitely not the hero in the comics, but Hughie is supposed to care about general humanity while pursuing the cause for his own reasons.

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The main thing I did not like about this show overall was that there was no humanity. None of the main characters actually cares about other human beings, they are all selfishly motivated. We are supposed to be horrified that Homelander lets a plane-full of people die, but then accept when Butcher is willing to use babies as a bargaining tool?

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absolutley not and that's why I loved it. There really was no "good guy" in the show. Maybe Starlight to a point but even she had human flaws like the rest. Butcher is a giant piece of shite. If you thought we were supposed to root for him you missed the point.

the greatness in this show, like game of thrones (books more than the show) was the ability to take a character make you form an opinion about them, then through story telling change that opinion. The Deep starting off like a piece of shite then becoming sympathetic. Queen Maeve (spelling?) Seeming like cold person only to discover she had been beat down by the system. Butcher looking like a hero only to discover it was all about revenge and rage. Homelander being a dick but finding out he had been lied to and manipulated into that from birth. The list goes on for every character and it's awesome.

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Like Billy Bob said in Armageddon. Imagine a firecracker resting on your palm, then imagine a firecracker in your closed fist

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the greatness in this show, like game of thrones (books more than the show) was the ability to take a character make you form an opinion about them, then through story telling change that opinion. The Deep starting off like a piece of shite then becoming sympathetic. Queen Maeve (spelling?) Seeming like cold person only to discover she had been beat down by the system. Butcher looking like a hero only to discover it was all about revenge and rage. Homelander being a dick but finding out he had been lied to and manipulated into that from birth. The list goes on for every character and it's awesome.

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I'll give you that. But consider this: this show is being made by people in power (or fighting for it in Amazon's case against old Hollywood). So, are these humanizations of the reasoning for why these people are dicks a ploy to make us the consumer of cinema products forgive the people that act this way and thus not question why they should continue to hold positions in cinema? Especially considering Amazon is picking up those that drop out of the studio system or are kicked out of the studio system.

Just food for thought.

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Each character you mentioned is motivated by their own selfish needs, their own families, revenge, etc. Not about humanity in general.

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I think all of humanity is motivated by its own selfish needs.

Each of the major characters, aside from the Boys (excluding Butcher) had both loathsome moments and moments that made you feel for them. Like mini-Jamie Lannister moments (final season notwithstanding).

Billy Butcher was driven by revenge because he was either lied to or failed to recognize the truth about his wife, and didn't care who he hurt along the way.

Homelander was raised in a damn lab, as scummy as he is, I felt bad for the toddler sitting in the room alone with his blanket.

The Deep is a narcissistic sexual deviant, yet wants to do more as a superhero and genuinely cares about aquatic life.

Hell, Starlight compromised her moral convictions by sucking dick for a job and putting on a whore suit.

Queen Maeve felt guilt at having left her girlfriend to pursue her career.

EVERYTHING about the show is rooted in humanity, because humanity is inherently selfish - just like all the characters in the show. You watched something different than I did.

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Each character you mentioned is motivated by their own selfish needs, their own families, revenge, etc. Not about humanity in general

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Well, are YOU motivated by bettering humanity in general?

Starlight came in thinking she could; apparently Maeve did too. They're finding out the world doesn't work that way.

Billy? He thought Vought and specifically Homelander was responsible for his wife's disappearance, and presumed rape and death. Where did he get that info... Mallory?
Pretty easy to see how that would consume a man, and yet he does try to help others when he can. Maybe not altruistically, but he doesn't want Hughie to get hurt again.

A-Train, he's acting like a declining pro athlete. He'd always be fast, but his calling card is the fastest. He's in danger of being replaced.

Homelander technically "cares about humanity at large"; he sees himself as the necessary alpha overseeing society. He doesn't give jack shite about individuals, but everything he does is to put himself in a position of power... and he intends to use that power. He made super terrorists, but not ones he can't kill when the time arises; and he knows where they are. They are out there to guarantee his public acceptance into a military role. He's not attacking the system, he's working within it, to get where he believes he needs to be. Simply put, he "knows" the world needs a Superman, and he's it.