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re: Cubs finish investigation of racist hand gesture on TV, ban fan from Wrigley
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:32 am to BCLA
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:32 am to BCLA
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To be fair, those pics of Barry O he's doing the normal way, the guy who got banned was doing it upside down, which I learned today was racist.
You have been sucked into a societal troll that 4chan is so good at. While one MIGHT be able to draw some connections to members of the "white power movement" prior to the 4chan trolling it really isn't clear if it meant anything beyond "OK".
The chances the fan in question did it as some display of his allegiance with white power is very low, it is however very likely (near 100%) that he was trolling. This is the point I probably diverge from the typical OTer. I have no issue with them banning him from trolling.
On the majority of online communities (forums), trolls get the ban hammer pretty quickly, even on TD in extreme examples. While people may argue about it I see it as necessary except in the case of clear and well known generally benign trolls like el Gaucho.
If I owned a sports franchise I would not want my broadcasts to become a vehicle for trolls and I would exercise my right to exclude a troll from my stadium.
Seeing it as racists is naive, banning a troll is good for the Cubs and arguable society as a whole.
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:36 am to Tigerbait357
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Crane Kenney
I've said it before and I'll say it again. This guy is the worst executive the Cubs have had in the likes of guys like Larry Himes (so bad that Greg Maddux turned down more money after 92 to sign with the Braves and caused then face of the franchise Ryne Sandberg into retirement), Andy McPhail (more like McFail), and P.K. Wrigley (worst. owner. ever.)
He's a holdover from the previous Tribune and later Zell ownership. The man is such a wimp and a colossal idiot yet the Ricketts family kept him and tried to reassure fans that he wouldn't touch baseball operations. It's funny as they're using this to cover up the bad PR they're getting with calling up Addison Russell when they don't really need him anyway.
I wish that assclown would get fired eventually. He has no business working in the front office of any major league ballclub.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:58 am to Obtuse1
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The chances the fan in question did it as some display of his allegiance with white power is very low
Exactly. I was being sarcastic when I said today I learned it was racist. We all know it wasnt.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:06 am to Glorious
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It’s physically painful how stupid some people are
Couldn’t agree more. Just let the announcer do his job. The childish behavior of the fan is not needed.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 1:11 am
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:07 am to Tigerbait357
So silly
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:19 am to Tigerbait357
Wasn't this whole thing debunked? I read somewhere that the ok signal actually being the signal for White Supremacists was false. But idk for sure.
In any way, I dont see how you can ban someone for life for a hand gesture. If the guy was harassing his neighbors, being a dixk, calling folks the N word, then by all means, ban him. Or maybe if they dug into the guy's past and were able to verify that he is indeed a true white supremacist. Then sure ban the mess out of him.
Somehow I feel this wasn't the case. Management looks like they saw the picture, saw the memes on internet of claiming that hand signal was racist, and proceeded to jump the gun.
In any way, I dont see how you can ban someone for life for a hand gesture. If the guy was harassing his neighbors, being a dixk, calling folks the N word, then by all means, ban him. Or maybe if they dug into the guy's past and were able to verify that he is indeed a true white supremacist. Then sure ban the mess out of him.
Somehow I feel this wasn't the case. Management looks like they saw the picture, saw the memes on internet of claiming that hand signal was racist, and proceeded to jump the gun.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:44 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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My kids play neck all day every day with that hand signal. Flash it below your waist and you get to slap the person on the neck who looks at it.
It’s a fricking kid game
Of course Klan kids will play that game.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 1:58 am to QJenk
quote:
Wasn't this whole thing debunked? I read somewhere that the ok signal actually being the signal for White Supremacists was false. But idk for sure.
In any way, I dont see how you can ban someone for life for a hand gesture. If the guy was harassing his neighbors, being a dixk, calling folks the N word, then by all means, ban him. Or maybe if they dug into the guy's past and were able to verify that he is indeed a true white supremacist. Then sure ban the mess out of him.
Somehow I feel this wasn't the case. Management looks like they saw the picture, saw the memes on internet of claiming that hand signal was racist, and proceeded to jump the gun.
I wouldn't say a connection with white supremacy has been completely debunked since there are pictures of avowed white supremacists using it that predate the 4chan trolls. That said there is no question that "society" became cognizant of it as a result of the 4chan trolls. It certainly does not have the ubiquitousness of well known white power "symbols" like three sets of parentheses enclosing text. It is not unusual for the white power movement to use rather anodyne symbols as seen with 14 and 88. Is an e-commerce website with prices that all end in 88 a white power enterprise or just a Chinese guy's website that is looking for some luck in sales.
Again I am near 100% certain this was a simple troll, but as I mentioned before I am fine with trolls being banned from stadiums, if not stadiums will be filled with troll banners and signs that go beyond trolling the opposing team.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 1:59 am
Posted on 5/9/19 at 4:56 am to Tigerbait357
People still believe this lie?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:23 am to Tigerbait357
Idiotic by the cubs
It being Chicago and all, I bet the guy apologized for being accidentally racist and agreed with the ruling
It being Chicago and all, I bet the guy apologized for being accidentally racist and agreed with the ruling
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 5:24 am
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 am to Tigerbait357
Congrats Cubs on the dumbass.....and the forthcoming lawsuit
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:51 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
quote:Sounds like your kids are racists as frick. Only way to stop this is to ban thumbs. Get rid of thumbs, and lets see them racists throw up them gang signs then.
My kids play neck all day every day with that hand signal. Flash it below your waist and you get to slap the person on the neck who looks at it.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:52 am to Wtodd
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.and the forthcoming lawsuit
Based on?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:09 am to TigerGman
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Based on?
Banning this guy based on something made up
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:09 am to Tigerbait357
Wasn't the whole okay sign is white supremacist a 4chan hoax?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:16 am to Tigerbait357
Got Heeeeem
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:19 am to Tigerbait357
This guy was literally kicked out of Wrigley Field for being white. Ironically in the most segregated city in the country.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:24 am to Tigerbait357
They did that fan a favor.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:27 am to Placebeaux
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Ironically in the most segregated city in the country.
Is it? It seems like most every city is segregated, especially those in the North.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 6:27 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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It’s a fricking kid game
It was. Then the retards over at 4chan decided that they would troll the media by trying to say it was a white power hand gesture in 2017. Then the retards in the white power movement started to use it. So now the lines are blurry.
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