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re: ER Doc says assaults against doctors and medical pros on the rise
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:03 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:03 am to Oilfieldbiology
Probably because all doctors do is “tests” to run the bill up instead of helping people
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:10 am to el Gaucho
I've been working in an ER for almost two years, and I worked inpatient psych for 7 years before that. I'd agree with the provider in the OP, assaults against medical professionals are on the rise. In the past, my employer has discouraged myself and many of my coworkers from pressing charges, but that mindset is rapidly changing since that poor nurse from Baton Rouge died. Personally, I think if someone is in a true psychotic state due to serious mental illness, charges shouldn't be pressed. However, if drugs or alcohol are involved, or the patient is just an a-hole, then straight to jail.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:15 am to Oilfieldbiology
When I was doing armed security at a hospital one of our biggest contributors to that were drunks that the cops dropped off instead of taking them to jail for public intoxication.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:24 am to SW2SCLA
Lack of security personnel is astounding at some places. And those you do have a re limited by their own age and size or hospital policy.
Psych patients are a major factor. My place routinely keeps them 36-100 hours!!! There just are no inpatient beds. Emergency detention orders are obtained and then expire all while waiting for a bed. Want to escalate a psych patient? Lock them in a room for 72 hours. EVERY ONE of those frickers smoke. That is usually where it goes downhill. The denial of a smoke break. Which for a schizophrenic could be every hour on the hour.
The opiate crisis has made pain as a vital sign obsolete. Which pisses people off. You are essentially telling a junkie that “the tit ran dry”. This is good but it needs to be done with security nearby or accompanying.
The restaurant mentality or hotel mentality of most hospitals nurtures this behavior. All while being expected to do more with less. Now Medicare Medicaid are basing reimbursement on satisfaction scores to an extent. Nothing is being done to improve matters.
Psych patients are a major factor. My place routinely keeps them 36-100 hours!!! There just are no inpatient beds. Emergency detention orders are obtained and then expire all while waiting for a bed. Want to escalate a psych patient? Lock them in a room for 72 hours. EVERY ONE of those frickers smoke. That is usually where it goes downhill. The denial of a smoke break. Which for a schizophrenic could be every hour on the hour.
The opiate crisis has made pain as a vital sign obsolete. Which pisses people off. You are essentially telling a junkie that “the tit ran dry”. This is good but it needs to be done with security nearby or accompanying.
The restaurant mentality or hotel mentality of most hospitals nurtures this behavior. All while being expected to do more with less. Now Medicare Medicaid are basing reimbursement on satisfaction scores to an extent. Nothing is being done to improve matters.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:27 am to Oilfieldbiology
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ER Doc says assaults against doctors and medical pros on the rise
As brought to you by the same ER people who think the full moon increases ER visitors... despite having 0 data backing the claim.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:35 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Lack of security personnel is astounding at some places.
The cost of security cuts into the bottom line.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:37 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Lack of security personnel is astounding at some places. And those you do have a re limited by their own age and size or hospital policy.
Having an armed police officer in the ER would cut out 80% of the frickery that goes on there. Drunks and meth heads aren't scared of security guards
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The restaurant mentality or hotel mentality of most hospitals nurtures this behavior. All while being expected to do more with less. Now Medicare Medicaid are basing reimbursement on satisfaction scores to an extent. Nothing is being done to improve matters.
Nailed it
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 am to UnitedFruitCompany
quote:I've told more than 1 angry patient, "you walked in here on your own, do that and you'll be carried out", when they balled up a fist at someone in the room.
Friendly reminder that attacking hospital staff, especially doctors and nurses is considered a federal offense.
Plan accordingly, junkies.
Who are they gonna tell/complain to? If they want any treatment whatever they'll settle their arse back down and stop acting a fool.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 am to MoarKilometers
Limited security means the staff has to protect themselves. Most security in the ER I work in is the average ripe age if 75 yrs old and older. You want to act an arse and tear up the dept or swing on staff because you are drunk and fricked up?? .. theres been instances where some individuals I know wont call the police..... they will intubate your arse then file the police report afterwards. Act the fricking donkey and see what happens....
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 7:40 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:40 am to LSU alum wannabe
I’m just glad our hospital security are actually armed with more than pepper spray. Our security has guns. Our security director used to work for the FBI.
But you already know that in many hospitals....hospital security is not even armed with guns. I can remember when I worked at OLOL and the whole DTL serial killings were going on and all the nurses scared. I asked for security to escort me to my car one night....a tiny very much pregnant woman in a security uniform showed up...with just a baton and pepper spray to protect us.
But you already know that in many hospitals....hospital security is not even armed with guns. I can remember when I worked at OLOL and the whole DTL serial killings were going on and all the nurses scared. I asked for security to escort me to my car one night....a tiny very much pregnant woman in a security uniform showed up...with just a baton and pepper spray to protect us.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:42 am to lsunurse
Great thing about UHC was there were ALWAYS armed LPSO on staff. Every psych was wand for weapons before walking thru those doors. Ive seen a many of patients tased for acting an arse. It was awesome!!!!
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:45 am to sonoma8
I wish they'd give me a taser
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 7:46 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:08 am to el Gaucho
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Probably because all doctors do is “tests” to run the bill up instead of helping people
There are plenty of problems in the medical arena. But the people most likely attacking doctors aren't there seeking a solution for a medical problem. They're there to maintain their high.
In other words, the problem here is close enough to exclusively being drug seekers.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:21 am to Oilfieldbiology
Where does grabbing a nurses arse fall in this?
Asking for a friend
Asking for a friend
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:32 am to Winston Cup
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Where does grabbing a nurses arse fall in this?
Asking for a friend
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:34 am to Oilfieldbiology
I should probably reconsider some of my future plans of action.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:36 am to Oilfieldbiology
Social fabric of the country has been ripped apart. The crude and profane have become mainstream and it's reflected in the lives of the citizens.
"My feelings are always valid" is a lie that's taken the country by storm.
"My feelings are always valid" is a lie that's taken the country by storm.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:41 am to tigerbutt
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This tends to happen as drug use increases amongst the population.
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LEXINGTON, KY (WKYT/Gray News)
yep, and it's been exacerbated in Kentucky in the last 10 or so years. Lexington has a ton of oxy addicts. It's pretty sad.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:44 am to Oilfieldbiology
I work in this space. I deal with ER patient populations regularly (from a statistical and analytical standpoint for a hospital system).
It is due to the rise in psych patients clogging the ER, which definitely has some correlation to increased drug abuse.
We used to just ship them to a funny farm and/or isolate them, but now we keep them in our ERs for a variety of reasons, usually because of space limitations. Depending on the state, sometimes that is due to legislation.
It is due to the rise in psych patients clogging the ER, which definitely has some correlation to increased drug abuse.
We used to just ship them to a funny farm and/or isolate them, but now we keep them in our ERs for a variety of reasons, usually because of space limitations. Depending on the state, sometimes that is due to legislation.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:46 am to dbeck
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That's what happens when you have to wait 4 hours just to get charged $2,500 for a bandaid and a Tylenol.
Get better insurance or buy your own Band-Aids and Tylenol.
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