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Why should Wade have anticipated his conversation would be recorded
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:17 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:17 am
Ther have been several comments that Wade should have anticipated his conversation with Dawkins would be recorded. Why? It was no different than other similar coversations coaches have had with handlers, middle men and whomever had control over where a player signs. It seems like just a case of unfortunate timing when the FBI was invesigating criminal acts. There was no reason for Wade to believe Dawkins was under investigation.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:19 am to tigersbb
He obviously thought it was a possibility based on the wording the cryptic wording he used
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:21 am to tigersbb
You should always anticipate it just as a matter of course and always go through intermediaries like a smart person so you can avoid exactly what has happened.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:21 am to tigersbb
The "people" saying that are paid trolls hired by Alleva to promote a false narrative to try to convince the fanbase that we should be okay with Joe firing Wade.
They are intellectually dishonest and lack sufficient intelligence quota to have a normal discussion with.
There is no point in arguing with them. Just RA everything they post as "possible alter."
They are intellectually dishonest and lack sufficient intelligence quota to have a normal discussion with.
There is no point in arguing with them. Just RA everything they post as "possible alter."
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 10:22 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:26 am to tigersbb
Whenever you cheat you should always suspect you are going to get caught
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You should always anticipate it just as a matter of course and always go through intermediaries like a smart person so you can avoid exactly what has happened.
I know what you are saying in general, but most of us have personal and business conversations without such concerns.
Has this tyoe of recording ever surfaced in an NCAA investigation?
Was there reason for Wade to believe Dawkins was under federal investigation/
Yes, anything is possible and apparently occurred in this instance but federal wiretappinf would seem to be a stretch to anticipate.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:37 am to tigersbb
It's not stretch to think that Dawkins would record some convos for blackmail. Wade should have been more careful and not such a dick to the guy, not hard to see why Wade is the guy Dawkins want to bring down with him.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 11:04 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:38 am to tigersbb
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Why should Wade have anticipated his conversation would be recorded
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There was no reason for Wade to believe Dawkins was under investigation.
Dawkins was arrested and has been under FBI investigation a long time for basketball corruption....everyone in the basketball world knew it. Wade should have known better than to even receive a call from this guy.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:42 am to tigersbb
quote:Because idiot FKing planned to allow outside adversarial parties to dial in on a conference call.
Why should Wade have anticipated his conversation would be recorded
Oh . . . you were talking about the Dawkins call.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:43 am to Philippines4LSU
Lol wtf
Nice made up conspiracy.
Nice made up conspiracy.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:45 am to SulphursFinest
I don’t know that should have anticipated it being recorded but he just never should have been on the phone with the damn bag man in the first place
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:45 am to Philippines4LSU
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The "people" saying that are paid trolls hired by Alleva to promote a false narrative to try to convince the fanbase that we should be okay with Joe firing Wade.
I think this is a stretch. Alleva has nothing to gain by knowingly going against the fan base.
I think the real issue is he is a sanctimonious prick who believes we and our opinions are a beneath him.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You should always anticipate it just as a matter of course and always go through intermediaries like a smart person so you can avoid exactly what has happened.
His terminology, which may ultimately spare him, if he is talking about what everyone thinks he is, seems to indicate that he is anticipating the possibility.
People, in their haste to throw gas on Wade and light the match, are pretending that he is the only one who was talking to a handler, instead of letting someone else do it. We already have Sean Miller's voice, and Bill Self's texts caught up in this, and we have been told that there are a lot of names that will come out. We only have leaked "information", thus far.
I'd imagine there comes a time in the recruitment of a lot of the top players, where the coach, not the intermediary, has to do the talking to try to close the deal. Whatever deal that might be.
Like the OP said, it was just bad timing for Wade, and people are acting like he did something unusual. What do they know? What are they going to say if all kinds of big names end up being on recordings, when the rest of this information is released?
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 10:50 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:48 am to tigersbb
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It seems like just a case of unfortunate timing when the FBI was invesigating criminal acts. There was no reason for Wade to believe Dawkins was under investigation.
There’s actual idiots on this board that keep saying “at least use a burner phone” Like the FBI can’t record conversations over a burner phone
The fact that the conversation was recorded by the FBI wasn’t on anyone’s mind untill the Self tapes leaked out. By then the damage was done and you can bet every coach in college basketball is still sweating all of this.
Hint hint.....Will Wade isn’t the only coach that was recorded, just the only one leaked so far
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:48 am to tigersbb
quote:
There was no reason for Wade to believe Dawkins was under investigation.
Probably not, but moving forward, I'd be willing to bet these convos go on in person only - cosa nostra style
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:49 am to Philippines4LSU
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The "people" saying that are paid trolls hired by Alleva to promote a false narrative to try to convince the fanbase that we should be okay with Joe firing Wade.
Damn, where can I get that gig? Get paid to troll on a meaningless message board? frick yeah
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:50 am to tigersbb
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Why should Wade have anticipated his conversation would be recorded
I knew a guy a long time ago who sold weed in a small town. He would not discuss it on his home phone - this was before cell phones. You had to go by his house and catch him there or page him to call you back.
If someone showed up and seemed nervous he would not do business with them. He thought they may have been caught and were going to buy from him to set him up. He turned quite a few people away - even if they came over and were already messed up and he thought they may get pulled over it was no deal.
AND this guy was not the sharpest person I ever met. Quite the opposite actually. But he had a serious aversion to going to jail and it served him well.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:50 am to tigersbb
I bet this changes how coaches deal with middlemen in all sports.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:54 am to Dlab2013
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There’s actual idiots on this board that keep saying “at least use a burner phone” Like the FBI can’t record conversations over a burner phone
Yeah, the burner phone only would have worked if he were texting like Bill Self did. In which case, without names being mentioned in the texts, the FBI couldn't prove who was talking. Bill Self DID text, but didn't use a burner phone. That's particularly dumb, because when you text, even if you delete it, the FBI probably has a way to dig it back up. So by using his regular phone to do that, he really showed no discretion.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 10:55 am to Metaloctopus
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What are they going to say if all kinds of big names end up being on recordings, when the rest of this information is released?
That they were all asking for it by dealing directly with Dawkins.
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