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re: Why should Wade have anticipated his conversation would be recorded
Posted on 3/30/19 at 12:13 pm to ibldprplgld
Posted on 3/30/19 at 12:13 pm to ibldprplgld
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All programs are doing it. Wade was one of the few coaches to be directly linked to someone like Dawkins. His mistake wasn't playing the game; his mistake was making himself the point person instead of others. When he spoke directly with Dawkins, regardless of what was discussed, he exposed himself and LSU to scrutiny. Period.
And I will remind you again, of Sean Miller and Bill Self, THUS FAR, that we know of, who have been caught.
And what you are saying is beside the point I made that you're responding to. You can sit there and say he didn't make a mistake by playing the game, but that's not what other people are saying. And my point is that IF he is guilty, then yes HE DID make a mistake, regardless of the fact that everyone is doing it, but that he shouldn't be treated as a criminal because of what these "handlers" (agents) have turned the recruiting game into.
But, listening to the media, and a segment of our own fan base, they make it sound like Wade committed horrible crimes against humanity. But where is the outrage against Bill Self? When other names come out, will we hear any outrage towards them? Probably not. Not judging from the lack of reaction I've seen toward Bill Self, and also North Carolina with their academic fraud.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 3/30/19 at 12:21 pm to tigersbb
Because you never do dirt over the telephone
Posted on 3/30/19 at 12:28 pm to tigersbb
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but most of us have personal and business conversations without such concerns.
"Never write when you can speak. Never speak when you can nod."
Most of us don't engage in business activity/practices that could considered to be as a violation of rules, regulations or laws and otherwise questionable behavior.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 12:34 pm to Metaloctopus
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But, listening to the media, and a segment of our own fan base, they make it sound like Wade committed horrible crimes against humanity.
Who is calling him a criminal?....it's a possible NCAA violation that can get him canned and LSU penalized....nothing more. Because it doesn't matter how it works, what the norm is or who else is doing it. If my 2017 link was common knowledge like you say...Wade should have known better than to have a possible illegal conversation with a nationally publicized criminal and should have known it could be trouble. Isn't that the topic here?
Posted on 3/30/19 at 12:43 pm to ibldprplgld
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All programs are doing it.
This has always worked for me. In high school we used to go behind the track next to the woods and smoke cigarettes after lunch. One day I had just walked up and had the trail in to my back. I just lit up and someone yelled "coach Jones". I turned to look and it was too late. On the way back to the office he asked what I was thinking. I said "everybody does it". He said "you know you are right, and let me go".
I was pulled over one night drunk as a skunk. The cop said he was taking me in. I informed him while I was falling down that a lot of people drink and drive. He showed me how to turn off the flashing lights and siren on the cop car when I got home and we traded vehicles. He came and got the cop car the next morning.
It always works for me. If I were the only one I probably would have gotten in trouble at least once in my life.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:56 pm to Tigers4life
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Who is calling him a criminal?
All of the self-righteous fans and especially media who keep talking about him being "dirty" and calling his actions "reprehensible". They are treating him like a criminal, just as I said, because those kinds of words are how one describes a criminal, no?
If you haven't noticed that, then you've buried your head in the sand on this one.
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If my 2017 link was common knowledge like you say...Wade should have known better than to have a possible illegal conversation with a nationally publicized criminal and should have known it could be trouble. Isn't that the topic here?
Will Wade's comments that were caught on wire tap, happened before the story that you linked broke. Were you not aware of that?
Posted on 3/30/19 at 2:12 pm to Metaloctopus
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Will Wade's comments that were caught on wire tap, happened before the story that you linked broke. Were you not aware of that?
No I wasn't.....I was wrong and that changes my perspective on the subject. My argument doesn't hold water.
Posted on 3/30/19 at 2:19 pm to Tigers4life
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No I wasn't.....I was wrong and that changes my perspective on the subject. My argument doesn't hold water.
Well, my man, it's big of you to admit you didn't know that, so I respect you for that
Posted on 3/30/19 at 2:25 pm to tigersbb
Why even have the conversation or give an offer at all?
Posted on 3/30/19 at 5:38 pm to GeeOH
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Why even have the conversation or give an offer at all?
What was the offer? how do you know it was illegal?
Wade has not admitted to making an illegal offer. Javonte Smart has not admitted receiving impermissible benefits. Has anyone presented any tangible evidence of imprmissible benefits to anyone? If its not admitted or confirmed no violations occurred. Anyone can infer all they want but the NCAA does not have a case at this point.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 3/30/19 at 5:40 pm to tigersbb
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how do you know it was illegal?
because if it werent illegal he would have no problem talking to anyone about it
Posted on 3/30/19 at 11:04 pm to Tigers4life
This article came out after Smart announced his commitment to LSU in July of 2017. It seems like the call on the wiretap was right before that commitment (and not long after Wade was hired).
It appears that Wade is frustrated having to deal with Froman's demands for Smart. Smart was considered a KY lock, and Froman's association with Calipari was a big part of that. Wade was late to the party, since he had just been hired at LSU.
Wade sniping Smart from Calipari within three months of being hired obviously rubbed some powerful people the wrong way.
GEAUX TIGERS
It appears that Wade is frustrated having to deal with Froman's demands for Smart. Smart was considered a KY lock, and Froman's association with Calipari was a big part of that. Wade was late to the party, since he had just been hired at LSU.
Wade sniping Smart from Calipari within three months of being hired obviously rubbed some powerful people the wrong way.
GEAUX TIGERS
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