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re: Will’s mouth got him/us in trouble - Only he can get himself/us out of trouble
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:51 am to Tigerfan7218
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:51 am to Tigerfan7218
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So there's no way to authenticate them or confirm that they haven't been doctored in some way.
Really??? You are defending WW because you think the tapes have been doctored????
WOW.
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:52 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm so sick of the idiots that find their way to this place to post this type of retarded nonsense.
It's beginning to get comical. Our own fans have no clue.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:52 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:Translation: The OP is dumb.
This is about the people who pay the money - that's who they are going after.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:52 am to Irish LSU Fan
God you're dense... No I'm saying that LSU nor the NCAA has any way to 100% authenticate them before the trial... But hey remember Miles was going to Michigan according to "sources" and the Honey Badger was taking money for public appearances according to "sources"
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:53 am to Geauxst Writer
It was Will’s fault anyway you slice it.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:56 am to madddoggydawg
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It was Will’s fault anyway you slice it.
Thats fine but how about we let the process play out before condemning the man.
This is no different than the cops that are demonized for shooting "unarmed" black folks in cold blood only to be found innocent in the courts.
Let the damn thing play itself out before taking action.
LSU's administration really screwed the PR pooch no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:56 am to Tigerfan7218
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I'm saying that LSU nor the NCAA has any way to 100% authenticate them before the trial.
Remember....the NCAA and LSU are NOT courts of law. They do not have to prove anything. The NCAA can basically do "whatever" it wants (without proof).
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:58 am to Irish LSU Fan
Yep, I get that, but if they acted on strictly a media report (remember the leak last week is not even part of court record yet), it'd set such a bad precedent allowing media to dictate NCAA investigations. The NCAA won't make any sort of move until after the trial so LSU making a move before the trial makes no sense
Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Wade needs to meet with the supervisors, period.
Only 2 things come from that meeting.
1) they basically try to get a confession out of Wade to scapegoat him.
2) they really do try to get a plan of attack together to defend LSU but then are susceptible to having to divulge what was said in that meeting to NCAA when they come sniffing around.
Either one of those is bad for the coach so I don't see an issue with him avoiding the meeting.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:00 pm to Tigerfan7218
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Again no one is really arguing that if the transcripts are accurate it's bad...
There seems to be a lot of confusion about who has access to the actual transcripts. These are the key questions about them that seem unclear to me:
1. It's been reported that FBI began to hand over some of the actual transcripts to the NCAA over the past 2 months. Does that mean LSU compliance / Alleva has actually been able to verify that these quotes are indeed accurate?
2. One huge difference between Will Wade and Sean Miller is that we are seeing what are allegedly direct quotes from Wade published but not (yet) for Sean Miller. Did the NCAA only get these exact quotes very recently? Is that why Miller has remained (until right now)?
In short, I agree that if the Wade quotes are accurate from the transcripts and the compliance department has been able to verify that, they had little choice but to suspend him. In the NCAA's eyes, just the quotes themselves are enough of an infraction for a show cause without further proof.
However, for all that is written about this, the exact access to verify the accuracy of these quotes hasn't really been clear to me.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:04 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:Is it conceivable, considering the source seems to be affiliated with a defendant in the FBI probe and forwarding an everyone-does-this defense, that there is a possibility the transcripts were edited? Hello?
You are defending WW because you think the tapes have been doctored????
Do you think, given Pete Thamel's history of repeated false reporting at the expense of amateur athletes, he would give a rat's arse about getting this story factually wrong as well? Hello?
Will Wade's statement "I cannot comment at this time on various media reports, except to say that they do not begin to tell the full story," does not give you pause . . . at all?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:06 pm to Geauxst Writer
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:07 pm to NC_Tigah
It's so funny to bring up all the ways to plausibly deny this stuff and see people freak out and start yelling that he's guilty like you're saying he's innocent...
What happened and what you can prove are different things
What happened and what you can prove are different things
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:08 pm to Geauxst Writer
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FBI are swarming around our program like fire ants
Incorrect sir. The FBI is not investigating LSU or Will Wade. The leak is coming from the defense. And Wade is not the worst of leaked quotes from the wire tap.
As my boss used to tell all new employees, speak from a position of knowledge otherwise keep your mouth shut.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:09 pm to Tigerfan7218
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but if they acted on strictly a media report
I think LSU knows more than we all know (via the media). If LSU thought there was ANY chance WW could survive this, he would still be the coach because of the tournament and $$$. I think LSU is trying to lessen the sanctions they know are coming from the NCAA (that's also why Smart is sitting out).
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:15 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
quote:I can see where the suspension was a tough call, but what if we're put on probation after all this and also took no internal action just to be nice to Wade.
Thats fine but how about we let the process play out before condemning the man.
It seems Smart is just as implicated so this is not good for LSU.
And what if we had ridden for Wade and he somehow gets away with it, but leaves LSU anyway so he's no longer associated with the scandal?
Very small chance this guy stays at LSU if he's even allowed to.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:17 pm to WhiteMandingo
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Message Will’s mouth got him/us in trouble - Only he can get himself/us out of trouble by WhiteMandingo but his ethics are in major doubt until he comes clean so we can know the entire story.
The thought of ethics is laughable. The one thing that this FBI investigation has proven is that there is a market place for basketball recruits and everyone has to shop there. The NCAA looks the other way because the month of March brings a lot of money into the NCAA bank account.
If it is found the power programs are involved it will look very bad for the NCAA
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:34 pm to Irish LSU Fan
quote:I think you have no clue as to Joe Alleva's history.
I think LSU knows more than we all know (via the media). If LSU thought there was ANY chance WW could survive this, he would still be the coach
Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:10 pm to Tigerfan7218
Wade did not meet with Admin. Admin hands are tied. I appreciate the emotion but Wade got himself into this.
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