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re: Steven Spielberg does not want Netflix films to be nominated for Academy Awards

Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:12 am to
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:12 am to
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:57 am to
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Agree and technology allows for a home experience on par with a theatre


Bingo!!!!
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:07 am to
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You keep posting these lists of films that “no one has seen”, and yet the majority of them have threads on this board where they’ve been discussed while they were in theaters.


This is a Movie/TV Board that contains more than a few hard core film buffs, myself included. Some of us even work in the film industry. To use this place as a microcosm of the general movie-going public is intellectual dishonesty.

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not making a hundred mill doesn’t make it an obscure indie film


But it does indicate butts in seats and whether or not people have actually watched these movies that have been nominated. In 1997, three of the five films nominated for Best Picture were box office smashes that earned well over $100 million. When you adjust them for inflation, As Good as it Gets and Good Will Hunting both would have earned close to $300 million in today's dollars.

And then you have a film like Titanic that would have grossed more than $1 billion in 2018-19 dollars. Even L.A. Confidential, adjusted for inflation, would have earned over $100 million at the domestic box office. The only film nominated that year that wasn't seen by a good many of the general audience was The Full Monty.

And that's the point I'm trying to make. Even when there were just five nominees for Best Picture, there was a time in which popular mainstream films made up a majority of the nominees. They didn't always win Best Picture, but they still ended up making the final five.

Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 5:30 pm to
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Agree and technology allows for a home experience on par with a theatre. I personally think movie theaters won't exist as we know them in a decade.


This is the same thing that the movie industry was against 35 years ago. They wanted people to spend $100 for a vhs or beta tape instead of being able to rent it for the night from a rental store. I honestly thought that movie theaters would have gone the way of indoor shopping malls long ago.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 5:43 pm to
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Part of the fun is experiencing it with other people? People suck and text all movies. I don’t want to have to pay $20 a ticket to have some 16 year old kid talking to their friends throughout the entire movie.
Movie theaters will absolutely die out, sooner than we think


I see a decent amount of movies in theaters and rarely have any problems. It also depends what movie you’re going to see on a Saturday night. If you’re seeing Spider-Man at 730 on a Saturday I’m sure the likelihood of having annoying kids is higher. Any pg13 blockbuster type movies I try to avoid seeing on Friday or Saturday night.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Part of the fun is experiencing it with other people? People suck and text all movies.


Have never had this happen to me and I go to the movies once every couple of weeks. Maybe stop going to see kiddie flicks or teenage melodramas?
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1310 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 6:08 pm to
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I refuse to go to the Baton Rouge theaters on a weekend night. Too many trashy people. So I end up never being able to catch a show in theaters. It isn’t about the cost. I really enjoy going to movies.


It's not just BR - it's everywhere. Over the last 5-10 years, basically since everyone bought an iPhone, theaters are terrible! In the past, it was an occasional crying baby, talking, etc. Now it seems like to 20% or more of the viewers - that the movie on the screen is secondary to whatever else they have going on. Speilberg, Tarrantino, etc have probably not set foot in an average movie theater with average movie goers in the last decade. I'm sure they watch with other industry people ( those people would not dare conduct personal business with SP or QT there ) in private theater settings or premieres at red carpet events that average movie goers cannot attend.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 6:51 pm to
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It's not just BR - it's everywhere. Over the last 5-10 years, basically since everyone bought an iPhone, theaters are terrible! In the past, it was an occasional crying baby, talking, etc. Now it seems like to 20% or more of the viewers - that the movie on the screen is secondary to whatever else they have going on


Over the past couple years I have had zero babies crying in a theater, only once was there annoying people talking (marvel movie) and one other time this old guy would randomly cough. And I’ve probably seen 20+ movies during that time. Do y’all only go see Pixar or Marvel movies on a Saturday afternoon?
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 6:52 pm to
frick him good is good no matter who or where it was made.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 7:19 pm to
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I'm trying to understand his perspective on why there is a "difference between the streaming and theatrical situation",


$$$$
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48357 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 7:21 pm to
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So what's the difference between streaming and broadcast t.v.?


Do they even have made-for-TV movies anymore?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51623 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 8:03 pm to
Made for tv movies weren't considered either. Streaming should be placed in same class
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 8:19 pm to
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Made for tv movies weren't considered either.


If they don’t get a theater release they can’t be considered. ESPN won best documentary a couple years ago bc they released the OJ doc in theaters for like 2 weeks in a couple places. And Roma was eligible bc of it’s theatrical release
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 8:21 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27868 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:06 am to
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Do they even have made-for-TV movies anymore?


Do you not even Hallmark channel, baw?
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 9:43 am to
Spielberg is wrong. It's fine that he takes this stance but he is wrong and his "side" won't win.

The horses are out of the barn and running across the entertainment landscape.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36196 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 11:04 am to
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Spielberg is wrong. It's fine that he takes this stance but he is wrong and his "side" won't win. The horses are out of the barn and running across the entertainment landscape.

Jesus. He’s not saying that we should do away with Netflix. He’s saying that the awards for theatrical release films should stay about theatrical release films.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 11:11 am to
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He’s saying that the awards for theatrical release films should stay about theatrical release films.


Roma was released theatrically.

Posted by TigerWerm
7th circle of hell
Member since Nov 2005
5799 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 11:13 am to
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Old man syndrome. He's pissed his movies are mediocre af now and he doesn't get showered in awards anymore. It's not the 1990s. The age of Schindler's List, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, etc is gone.


This

Ready Player One pissed me off. Very good book. Very mediocre movie.
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1310 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Over the past couple years I have had zero babies crying in a theater, only once was there annoying people talking (marvel movie) and one other time this old guy would randomly cough. And I’ve probably seen 20+ movies during that time. Do y’all only go see Pixar or Marvel movies on a Saturday afternoon?




Not at all. My wife takes the kids to those types of movies because I only watch those from home. I understand that those movies are going to have a different type of crowd. Again, it was an occasional crying baby / young child being upset for too long before the parent took the child out of the theater. It really is the cell phone pings and lights going off that bother me the most. This leads to a person showing someone else their phone or having to talk out loud about why they have to leave the theater for a few minutes, followed by sometimes taking another persons concession order. I probably go once per year to the theater for the CGI, super loud blockbusters. I'm talking about movies with quiet dialogue that you have to pay attention so as not to miss something. Maybe I'm just unlucky and these types of people sit near me.
Posted by Cajunomics
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2010
891 posts
Posted on 3/3/19 at 2:32 pm to
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First thing I thought. I don't know if he's wrong though. Someone else mentioned Schindler's List would have been the same in a home. I don't agree. There is something profound about going to a theater and having that experience with other people.



okay? still, i never had that opportunity to see it in theaters and it still moved me.. i couldn't stop thinking about it after i saw it.

i think SS is wrong here. a movie is a movie, regardless where it was released..

i also disagree about wanting to go to the movies to be apart of the crowd. i'd want to go to a theater for the huge screen and loud sound.. but not because i want to be with a ton of strangers where i have to be sure i don't upset anyone.

i have my own projector screen at home any ways, so these amazon and netflix originals look fine to me if i want a somewhat bigger viewing experience.
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