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re: Steven Spielberg does not want Netflix films to be nominated for Academy Awards

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Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:57 pm to
It's funny when old people go public as Luddites.
Posted by alpinetiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:59 pm to
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A quick Google search of the Academy Awards eligibility requirements shows that Roma did meet the requirements.


Aren't you the location scout for Spike Lee? I think I gathered that from another post.

My brother is a location scout and photographer for two shows for a network gig for the last two years. I'll tell you what I told him last night. He hung up on me, btw.

Prepare your anus. Film, just like any vibrant market is being disintermediated at a rate people have a har time keeping up with. You'd best figure out what's coming next, because you and my brother's job as it exists now is going to be automated, or discounted to the point of silliness..
Posted by alpinetiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:03 pm to
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Good for Spielberg for standing up for the rightful and time honored role of the theatre.

Keep all streaming in the Emmys where it belongs.

The Oscars are for real motion pictures.
Why? What's the difference?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Why? What's the difference?



A soda isn't $7 when you're streaming.
Posted by alpinetiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:13 pm to
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A soda isn't $7 when you're streaming.


I'm arguing on the same side as you. I've got a nice theatre experience at home without the $7 cokes.

I forsee movie theatres going the way drive-ins, but in a different way. There will always be movies that are best experienced in a theatre. You'll have a theatre for that experience. Particularly visually grand movies, or action movies. How many movies are those? 5%? The rest can be watched on a $300 50' HDTV.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:16 pm to
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I've got a nice theatre experience at home without the $7 cokes.



Agree completely. I've got an 80" 4K tv at my house with better food, no line for the bathroom, and most importantly a pause and volume button.

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There will always be movies that are best experienced in a theatre. You'll have a theatre for that experience.


Exactly. I only go to the theater for the truly visual epics.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:19 pm to
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There will always be movies that are best experienced in a theatre. You'll have a theatre for that experience. Particularly visually grand movies, or action movies. How many movies are those? 5%?


Those make up most of the movies people are going to theaters for already, so it really wouldn’t change that much
Posted by alpinetiger
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:26 pm to
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Those make up most of the movies people are going to theaters for already, so it really wouldn’t change that much


I disagree. Would you lose anything seeing A Star is Born from your home? There are more dramas and comedies than films that justify going to a theatre. Many more.

What current films in your opinion justify going to a theatre?
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:33 pm to
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I disagree. Would you lose anything seeing A Star is Born from your home? There are more dramas and comedies than films that justify going to a theatre. Many more.

What current films in your opinion justify going to a theatre?


I saw A Star is Born in Dolby theater and yes, it was better than watching it at home because of the sound.

Yes, there more comedies and dramas released when compared to large budget action or comic book movies. And I agree that most of those aren’t worth seeing in a theater. But when talking box office those big budget action or comic book movies are the ones that dominate, that’s all I was saying. Those movies are the ones keeping theaters alive for the most part.

ETA: horror movies haven been bringing people to the theaters as well
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by JW
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:35 pm to
he's not wrong .... when Roma is really only released theatrically for a few weeks (if that) and is then all of a sudden is streaming it cheapens the process. No matter how good the film is. And i'm sure there are some really nice home setups out there, but nothing can replicate the shared experience of the big screen. Box office sales were up over 10% this year. People enjoy going to the movies. Viewing habits will change over time, but it's not going away.

Just like the NFL --- games sometimes are better at home, but they cannot replace the experience of being there with other people
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:38 pm to
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Aren't you the location scout for Spike Lee? I think I gathered that from another post.

My brother is a location scout and photographer for two shows for a network gig for the last two years. I'll tell you what I told him last night. He hung up on me, btw.

Prepare your anus. Film, just like any vibrant market is being disintermediated at a rate people have a har time keeping up with. You'd best figure out what's coming next, because you and my brother's job as it exists now is going to be automated, or discounted to the point of silliness..




You're wrong, an idiot, and a terrible brother.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 9:39 pm
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:40 pm to
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he's not wrong .... when Roma is really only released theatrically for a few weeks (if that) and is then all of a sudden is streaming it cheapens the process. No matter how good the film is. And i'm sure there are some really nice home setups out there, but nothing can replicate the shared experience of the big screen. Box office sales were up over 10% this year. People enjoy going to the movies. Viewing habits will change over time, but it's not going away.

Just like the NFL --- games sometimes are better at home, but they cannot replace the experience of being there with other people
We'll see. Cheers.

Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:42 pm to
He better get on board with streaming because the theater will continue to diminish.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:45 pm to
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You're wrong, an idiot, and a terrible brother.
That's what my brother said. Almost verbatim. I take issue with you calling me a terrible brother. I'd lay down in traffic for all my siblings.

I stand by what I said.



Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:01 pm to
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Steven Spielberg does not want Netflix films to be nominated for Academy Awards

He’s not wrong. If Netflix and Amazon can win Oscars then why not HBO? Why not ABC and CBS? Why not something uploaded to YouTube?

He wants to keep the Oscars about “films”. If you open it up to any long form video presentation then there’s no reason to have these award shows. He wants to save the Oscars from becoming completely irrelevant.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:07 pm to
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So what's the difference between streaming and broadcast t.v.


Ones a show and ones a movie?
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:11 pm to
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He’s not wrong. If Netflix and Amazon can win Oscars then why not HBO? Why not ABC and CBS? Why not something uploaded to YouTube?

He wants to keep the Oscars about “films”. If you open it up to any long form video presentation then there’s no reason to have these award shows. He wants to save the Oscars from becoming completely irrelevant.


Why not? If its good "film" then why not recognize it as such, regardless of platform or medium? Why does a studio have to produce or buy a film to be qualified?

What I said earlier is that I'm trying to understand Speilberg's argument. I still don't see it and your post is no more compelling. What am I missing?
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:22 pm to
TV Movies already have an award show, it’s called the Emmys. The Academy Awards were created for movies shown in theaters. Why is this even controversial? Just because some poors and shut-ins like to stay home, doesn’t change the facts.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:26 pm to
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What am I missing?

That if you change The Oscars enough then they’re no longer The Oscars. If you want to create an anything-goes award show then create one. Spielberg wants The Oscars to continue to be about a specific segment of film entertainment.

When segments of the entertainment industry wanted to award television movies they didn’t insist that the Oscars include them. They created the Emmies. If you want an all inclusive visual entertainment awards show to include everything and anything, create a new one.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:32 pm to
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when Roma is really only released theatrically for a few weeks (if that) and is then all of a sudden is streaming it cheapens the process


How does it cheapen the process?

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Just like the NFL --- games sometimes are better at home, but they cannot replace the experience of being there with other people.


Go to a bar.

I've been to many Alabama games but I can't remember having as much fun as I did watching the Alabama-LSU game this past year at the Alabama bar here in Hawaii.


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