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Steven Spielberg does not want Netflix films to be nominated for Academy Awards
Posted on 3/1/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 5:59 pm
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Now, in the wake of three Oscar wins for Netflix’s Roma, including Best Director, Spielberg is prepared to propose a rule change that would rule Netflix films ineligible at an upcoming Academy Board of Governors meeting (he represents the Directors branch on the board). The news comes courtesy of Indiewire, though it’s unclear specifically what rules Spielberg would propose to be changed, and whether Netflix increasing the length of a theatrical window ahead of a streaming release would ease his concerns.
A spokesman for Amblin had this to say:
“Steven feels strongly about the difference between the streaming and theatrical situation. He’ll be happy if the others will join [his campaign] when that comes up [at the Academy Board of Governors meeting]. He will see what happens.”
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
I'm trying to understand his perspective on why there is a "difference between the streaming and theatrical situation", but I'm not seeing it. Cellulose as a medium, and theatres as an experience are dying, and I watch 98% of movies from a room in my house that's as good as any theatre for most movies. And the food and beer is better by the tenth power. So all I see and hear from Speilberg is a old crumudegeon that's shouting at clouds.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:10 pm to RLDSC FAN
I completely disagree with Spielberg here but I see what he's trying to do. He's trying to keep the old system in place where movies are watched as a community inside of a movie theater. The problem with that is, no one wants to pay $12-15 a ticket to watch an evening show at a movie theater anymore. Once you factor in a family of four and concessions, you're looking at a $100 bill just to go see a movie on a Friday or a Saturday night. Sitting down on the couch with the family to marathon multiple original films on a streaming site is so much more cost effective.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:13 pm to RLDSC FAN
Steven sounds like Jack Horner in Boogie Nights:
Jack Horner: Wait a minute. You come into my house, my party, to tell me about the future? That the future is tape, videotape, and not film? That it's amateurs and not professionals? I'm a filmmaker, which is why I will never make a movie on tape. I'll tell you something else. I will never, ever loan out any of the actors that I have under contract.
Floyd Gondolli: Wait, Jack. I'm not a complicated man. I like cinema. In particular, I like to see people fricking on film. But I don't want to win an Oscar and I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I like simple pleasures...like butter in my arse, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me. That's just something that I enjoy. Call me crazy, call me a pervert...but there's one little thing I want to do in this life and that is to make a dollar and a cent in this business. I'm not trying to hurt you. I'm trying to help you stay one step ahead of the game.
Jack Horner: Wait a minute. You come into my house, my party, to tell me about the future? That the future is tape, videotape, and not film? That it's amateurs and not professionals? I'm a filmmaker, which is why I will never make a movie on tape. I'll tell you something else. I will never, ever loan out any of the actors that I have under contract.
Floyd Gondolli: Wait, Jack. I'm not a complicated man. I like cinema. In particular, I like to see people fricking on film. But I don't want to win an Oscar and I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I like simple pleasures...like butter in my arse, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me. That's just something that I enjoy. Call me crazy, call me a pervert...but there's one little thing I want to do in this life and that is to make a dollar and a cent in this business. I'm not trying to hurt you. I'm trying to help you stay one step ahead of the game.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:15 pm to RollTide1987
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I completely disagree with Spielberg here but I see what he's trying to do. He's trying to keep the old system in place where movies are watched as a community inside of a movie theater. The problem with that is, no one wants to pay $12-15 a ticket to watch an evening show at a movie theater anymore. Once you factor in a family of four and concessions, you're looking at a $100 bill just to go see a movie on a Friday or a Saturday night. Sitting down on the couch with the family to marathon multiple original films on a streaming site is so much more cost effective.
Agree and technology allows for a home experience on par with a theatre. I personally think movie theaters won't exist as we know them in a decade.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:20 pm to alpinetiger
Good film is good film regardless of the platform it’s released or watched on...Schindlers List wouldn’t be any lesser because you watched it on Netflix...Spielberg’s logic is flawed
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:24 pm to LSUGent
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Schindlers List wouldn’t be any lesser because you watched it on Netflix...Spielberg’s logic is flawed
Plus platforms like Netflix are keeping Schindlers List relevant. I think it is actually streaming on there now.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:30 pm to alpinetiger
So what's the difference between streaming and broadcast t.v.? You've got the draw the line somewhere.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:33 pm to RollTide1987
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The problem with that is, no one wants to pay $12-15 a ticket to watch an evening show at a movie theater anymore.
This obviously isn’t true. I know several people who still love going to the movies. Movie theaters will never die. Part of the fun and the experience is being in the theater with other people. Part of movies and their experience is being with others to share that experience with.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
A quick Google search of the Academy Awards eligibility requirements shows that Roma did meet the requirements.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:37 pm to rebelrouser
I don’t have to watch an incomplete film cut up with commercials when streaming, for one
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:38 pm to alpinetiger
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Agree and technology allows for a home experience on par with a theatre.
I’m not on spielbergs side here as far as not allowing Netflix to get nominations, but that statement isn’t even close to being true. The averages persons home is nowhere close to a theater experience, and it never will be unless you can afford to spend 5k or more on a home theater
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
Good for Spielberg for standing up for the rightful and time honored role of the theatre.
Keep all streaming in the Emmys where it belongs.
The Oscars are for real motion pictures.
Keep all streaming in the Emmys where it belongs.
The Oscars are for real motion pictures.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:49 pm to LSUGent
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Good film is good film regardless of the platform it’s released or watched on...Schindlers List wouldn’t be any lesser because you watched it on Netflix...Spielberg’s logic is flawed
For the most part I agree. But there is definitely a difference when seeing a movie like Mad Max Fury Road in theater when compared to at home.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:52 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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First thing I thought. I don't know if he's wrong though. Someone else mentioned Schindler's List would have been the same in a home. I don't agree. There is something profound about going to a theater and having that experience with other people.
Tarantino bought a theater in Los Angeles, the New Beverly, to preserve and continue showing old movies. He's done his part in a more personal way.
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Steven sounds like Jack Horner in Boogie Nights:
First thing I thought. I don't know if he's wrong though. Someone else mentioned Schindler's List would have been the same in a home. I don't agree. There is something profound about going to a theater and having that experience with other people.
Tarantino bought a theater in Los Angeles, the New Beverly, to preserve and continue showing old movies. He's done his part in a more personal way.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:55 pm to KirkLazarus
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First thing I thought. I don't know if he's wrong though. Someone else mentioned Schindler's List would have been the same in a home. I don't agree. There is something profound about going to a theater and having that experience with other people.
If this is the case then the movies in the theaters have a major advantage in winning these awards as they are experienced in the theater instead of at home
This is simply sour grapes for a new platform taking over an industry that Spielberg made his living in. Speilberg has a recent history about being a sour puss about changes in the entertainment industry if I am remembering correctly
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:07 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:I do agree. Its inevitable for it to be completely digital and at home.
This is simply sour grapes for a new platform taking over an industry that Spielberg made his living in.
Piggy backing on this but do you prefer digital or the way a film looks when its directed by someone like Tarantino or Spielberg or PTA or Nolan because they prefer the look and style of moving pictures? They create their films with the intention of them being shown in a theater.
ETA: I use them because they are 4 of most highly regarded filmmakers of their time who preach the use of film. I think they could easily make the shift and compete with young guns.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:09 pm to RLDSC FAN
The leg he has to stand on is probably the “broadcast” rules which deal with a film being on TV or home video before X date to be eligible.
IIRC, Hoop Dreams got screwed out of an Oscar for Best Documentary in the 90s because it appeared on public television due to contractual reasons before the academy deadline.
IIRC, Hoop Dreams got screwed out of an Oscar for Best Documentary in the 90s because it appeared on public television due to contractual reasons before the academy deadline.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
Old man syndrome. He's pissed his movies are mediocre af now and he doesn't get showered in awards anymore. It's not the 1990s. The age of Schindler's List, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, etc is gone.
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