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re: In shocking news, the proposed I-10 widening through Baton Rouge already behind schedule

Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:11 am to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:11 am to
Sunshine Bridge is looking like March.

River will be rising as well
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7658 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:19 am to
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First of all, frick every last one of those underpass businesses.

Inconveniencing hundreds of thousands for the sake of their little restaurant....nah


There are literally 10's of 20's of people completely heartbroken over this.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 7:27 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53479 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:23 am to
If they tear down ivars where will people go?
Posted by Erebus
Member since Jan 2019
574 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:29 am to
As long as the widening part from Highland to 73 isn’t behind schedule
Posted by LNCHBOX
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84488 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:36 am to
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If they are at the drawing/planning stage, it has nothing to do with the property owners

You cant get their input until you have a plan/design.


Well this is just not factual, but ok.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84953 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:04 am to
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First of all, frick every last one of those underpass businesses.

Inconveniencing hundreds of thousands for the sake of their little restaurant....nah.


That’s one of the few parts of BR that’s worth going out to, not just another cookie cutter cluster of chains. You could burn down 98% of BR and I wouldn’t give a frick but that’s part of the 2% that has cultural relevance.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:11 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:06 am to
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As long as the widening part from Highland to 73 isn’t behind schedule

From an Advocate article last month.

"State officials have said previously work would begin in 2019 or 2020. The widening is expected to take 5-8 years."

It's TWO AND A HALF frickING MILES.



This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:06 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37714 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:07 am to
The area below it is concrete, gravel and buildings. The area around it is concrete and buildings with some decorative greenery. They are not reducing/paving over the water shed. They are not altering drainage patterns. They are not displacing native wildlife. A fricking environmental impact study is unnecessary and wasteful.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:10 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21678 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:08 am to
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In all fairness dealing with all the moving parts and people of going right through those areas these guys have their work cut out for them


Martini is correct. This project is a total nightmare. The problem is that in order to proceed any further in the design portion, the environmental document or agreement must be approved and finalized. After that, it cannot change more than a very limited amount or it must go back thru the process. This procedure or regulation is not originated by state government. It is federal law. Blame the retards in DC who make it so difficult to get thru the initial phases of a project.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84953 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:09 am to
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A fricking environmental impact study is unnecessary


Probably required for federal funds and just bc an environmental impact isn’t apparent doesn’t mean there couldn’t be any. What if the Return of the Living Dead tanks are in the Overpass Merchant basement?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37714 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:13 am to
I fully blame the leaches up in DC for putting onerous and burdensome regulations in place in order to grease their pockets for this delay.

DraconianSanctions:
There should be the ability to check a box indicating that an environmental impact study is unnecessary and have it used only in cases like this where the environment is already completely paved over, and federal funds still awarded.




This entire process irrationally pisses me off because we are letting paper work get in the way of getting the job done and it’s inefficient as hell
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17692 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:15 am to
No, obviously there are no wetlands impacted. But cultural/historical is lumped in as environmental.

Also, you people do realize an engineering consultant is the one doing the work, right? You should be asking why they're late.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84953 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:21 am to
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There should be the ability to check a box indicating that an environmental impact study is unnecessary and have it used only in cases like this where the environment is already completely paved over, and federal funds still awarded.


Again just because an evironmental impact isn’t readily apparent that doesn’t mean there isn’t any.

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This entire process irrationally pisses me off


I can see that
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135211 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:24 am to
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. What if the Return of the Living Dead tanks are in the Overpass Merchant basement?

Then someone fricked up the previous due diligence.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84953 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:25 am to
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Then someone fricked up the previous due diligence.


Which, as we all know, would never happen in Louisiana
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 8:26 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36525 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:28 am to
The project goes directly over a creek and a lake, wetlands are involved.

The project is vital, it needs to proceed, but this is La. Our deadheads don't get in a hurry, things are always late, but we continue to tolerate incompetence in govt. whether it's a criminal released, a small urban bridge that is rebuilt, sidewalk projects or road projects.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:30 am to
Going to look up how this widening of 1-10 compares to the widening of 290 in Houston. I know the 290 is a much larger project and population is rapidly growing at 165 new residents every day. 290 had to deal with moving businesses and a ton of utilities, etc.

I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings just curious how the 2 projects compare as 290 has been a traffic nightmare for many years
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17692 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:36 am to
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The project goes directly over a creek and a lake, wetlands are involved.
Gotcha. I was taking oilfield's word that it was only over developed land.

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but this is La. Our deadheads don't get in a hurry, things are always late, but we continue to tolerate incompetence in govt

This happens everywhere, not just LA. Plus, it's not like the government is doing the actual work. It's engineering consultants... Like someone said earlier in the thread, people don't understand all of the things that go into projects, especially major ones like this. It's a massive effort with tons of boxes to check. Right or wrong, or over-regulated as it may be, that's the way it is.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17692 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:39 am to
The 290 project was likely started decades ago with conceptual planning, then environmental (including cultural and historical) studies, and then ROW acquisition. ROW acquisition is likely most time consuming of all.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84488 posts
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:40 am to
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The 290 project was likely started decades ago with conceptual planning, then environmental (including cultural and historical) studies, and then ROW acquisition. ROW acquisition is likely most time consuming of all.


None of the geniuses in this thread that think this stuff is so easy to get done will get that
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