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re: More strikes ahead? Teachers say they love their jobs but can't pay their bills, poll show

Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:36 pm to
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a history teacher


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guess what I made? $2.68 an hour."


good thing he isn't a math teacher
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:38 pm to
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guess what I made? $2.68 an hour."

good thing he isn't a math teacher


I can't stop giggling at the absurdity of his comment.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:40 pm to
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Do the schools make these teachers do this or are they deceptive about the pay related to it?

These are hobbies. A teacher knows the pay and the time commitment related to them before they take on the task.


So you don't realize that coaching can be mandatory in many cases? It is not always voluntary.

Man, I hope a lot of you are not breeding.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:41 pm to
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Let's say this guy makes 30k per year. That means he's claiming he worked nearly 12000 hours in one year, equivalent to 500 24 hour days.


First year bachelored teachers in Saginaw SD get $40K. So using that as an absolute minimum, this poor man worked nearly 15,000 hours that year...622 days! This wretched soul was forced to work 1.7 years in a year. How is that fair to this man? And on top of all that he has to live in a Monty Python skit too.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:43 pm to
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So you don't realize that coaching can be mandatory in many cases? It is not always voluntary.


They force you to stay there? It's indentured servitude?

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Man, I hope a lot of you are not breeding


Says the guy who's brain is still broken over an event that happened over 2 years ago
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:51 pm to
The way it usually works is that a school will hire a coach and give him/her teaching duties to justify the salary. Not the other way around.
Posted by smife
Dublin, Ohio
Member since Oct 2014
24 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:54 pm to
If a teacher is working that many hours a year I question their efficiency.
Im in my 15th year and I work to the contract. 6 and 3/4 a day 182 days a year. Always use my 3 personal days and typically use 6 or 7 of my 15 sick days. Add 4 or 5 snow days and my hourly is boarder-line OT baller status

The time off is nice but I use it to flip 2 or 3 houses a year.

Also I don't know many people that can handle a classroom full of middle school kids and teaching them up on the daily..
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 6:06 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53122 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:55 pm to
Most of y’all bitching about teachers would of washed up you’re first day teaching and probably would of failed you’re praxis test

I never get why y’all take teachers for granite
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:57 pm to
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So teachers don't make the lesson plans, the lesson or the test? So where do you think these come from?


Every school system is different, but many provide a syllabus and lesson plans for every class which may include tests or guidelines for tests.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19598 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:58 pm to
Most teachers I know and have known in my life all had side gigs, especially during the summer.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:02 pm to
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Most of y’all bitching about teachers would of washed up you’re first day teaching and probably would of failed you’re praxis test



Any college graduate that cant make a passing score on the Praxis core knowledge test should have their degree revoked.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34396 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:05 pm to
I like my job, I'm not in a union, and my standard of living is okay by me. My pay as a coach may be in the $2 per hour range, but not my hourly rate as a teacher. I'm not sure how this person does the maffs.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:18 pm to
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Teachers love their jobs, but they say they have the right, and the reasons, to walk out on them.
As a man who married a former teacher and has a family of multiple teachers, I call huge bullshite on this.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:54 pm to
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These are hobbies. A teacher knows the pay and the time commitment related to them before they take on the task. I have hobbies outside of work that take up time and I don’t get paid for them.


You’re kidding right? A high school football coach is just enjoying a hobby? Teachers that get a 4-year degree to teach music are just doing a hobby? I’d say 50% of the employees at the school I work at put in extra time, either because it’s required outside of the workday or it’s absolutelt necessary to be competent at that position.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:54 pm to
My wife is the opposite. Hates her job and gets paid pretty well for the amount of days worked.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 6:58 pm to
Equating coaching to a hobby is just silly. That’s like saying doctors practice medicine because they enjoy it as a hobby. Obviously, many people try to work in a field that they would enjoy, but it doesn’t take away the job requirements.

The world of high school football is pretty cutthroat. Go and tell those coaches that they are lucky they get to enjoy a hobby. There’s a lot of time and effort spent on making sure little Johnny knows how to tackle.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105449 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:02 pm to
Take away their pensions and give them more salary and let them build their retirement on their own. They can pay a proper portion for their healthcare insurance.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:05 pm to
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I’d say 50% of the employees at the school I work at put in extra time, either because it’s required outside of the workday or it’s absolutelt necessary to be competent at that position.


100% of the people at my firm work outside of the workday because we're professionals. The fact that you think that is a lot says a lot
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:11 pm to
I’m talking about working at the school.

If you want to be worth anything in your profession, you’d better be doing something outside of those school hours. As you mentioned, it’s called being a professional.

But the fact that there are people on here who also state that ‘nobody tells them they had to work there’ and things like that contradict what you mentioned about putting in time to your craft off the clock.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:15 pm to
I agree with everyone who complains about teachers. Public schools should be abolished and people should pay privately for their kids educations. The parents willing to pay more can send their kids to the better schools and the ones who can’t get the seconds and thirds.

Wait, that is what has been happening in Baton Rouge for thirty years. It’s worked fantastically so far.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 7:26 pm
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