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Why does the US have low population distribution? (EC related)

Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:13 am
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:13 am
America by population

Elections without the EC Joke

This is what dont understand: Many people on here say that the south and the western states other than CA are "true America". But why do most people want to live in New York, Texas, California, and Florida?

My own theory is that its primarily economical. But quality of life has other factors which I'm sure also contribute to it. Low population and high population states are inevitably going to have very different interests.

I have my personal preference, but both sides should be well represented.

Edit: Someone please help me out by posting the images on here.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49067 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:15 am to
because poor low IQ people have more kids and they tend to congregate in large cities where they have easier access to handouts, housing etc.

Pretty simple
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19368 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:16 am to
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I have my personal preference, but both sides should be well represented.


Hence the EC.

No matter what people say, our country is wayyyyy to varied geographically, racially, culturally to merely let pure majority decide who our most powerful elected official is. Senators, reps, etc. That's fine since the voting is limited to those states alone.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:17 am to
Visit the epicenter of just about any large city, and then come tell me that's where you would prefer to raise a family.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68417 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:18 am to
Mexico is well represented
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14519 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:19 am to
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My own theory is that its primarily economical.


This.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:28 am to
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because poor low IQ people have more kids and they tend to congregate in large cities where they have easier access to handouts, housing etc.


Well, no one wants to live in Podunk, Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 10:30 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112652 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:30 am to
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because poor low IQ people have more kids and they tend to congregate in large cities where they have easier access to handouts, housing etc.


The Heritage Foundation did a good study on this about 10 years ago. Is middle America we think of the welfare queen as getting food stamps, medicaid and benefits from the feds. But in places like NYC you have layers of welfare that go away beyond federal programs.

State, county and city benefits to a single mother with only ONE child gets cash and in-kind benefits equally $15/hour for a 40 hour week.
She's not gonna get a job paying that when she is illiterate.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19581 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:30 am to

We aren’t an agrarian society.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:31 am to
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Mexico is well represented





3 words

Biometric ID system
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17307 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:32 am to
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Hence the EC.

No matter what people say, our country is wayyyyy to varied geographically, racially, culturally to merely let pure majority decide who our most powerful elected official is. Senators, reps, etc. That's fine since the voting is limited to those states alone.
If we were pure democracy, majority rules, ALL minority voices would be silenced.

Take "Gay Marriage" as an example. Three times, 3, the majority of Californians overwhelmingly voted against it. In the most liberal state in America, the vast majority voted against a cornerstone of the lib agenda.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:32 am to
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why do most people want to live in New York, Texas, California, and Florida?


Can you say WATER
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35653 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:33 am to
That's where the money is. Coastal areas for trade, and thus financial centers too. Texas has the added benefit of a shitload of hydrocarbons. There's a reason that around the world, population centers are on the coast or at least a navigable river. It is no surprise why the coasts have the people and the interior does not.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140977 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:35 am to
Weather and bikinis too.

Thongs were a thing last summer. I hope it sticks.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:39 am to
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State, county and city benefits to a single mother with only ONE child gets cash and in-kind benefits equally $15/hour for a 40 hour week. 
She's not gonna get a job paying that when she is illiterate.


I have thought of numerous ways to defeat this. But I keep reached the same conclusion : at a certain point, the wages from working simply can't compete with federal aid.

Edit: my downvoter may be confused. I'm not condoning welfare. I'm simply saying that its difficult to convince people to work when they know that realistically they will earn less from full time vs the government benefits.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 10:46 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140977 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:42 am to
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the wages from working simply can't compete with federal aid. 



Add stigma and work to leaches. That's how you defeat it.

Not being ashamed of taking advantage of the system is a problem.

Of course that doesn't apply in all cases.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112652 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:45 am to
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But I keep reaching the same conclusion : at a certain point, the wages from working simply can't compete with federal aid.


There is only one logical motivation to trade 15/hr to do nothing for 15/hr going to work. And that's the children. Psychologists have proven that kids follow the example of their parent's actions more than their parent's words. If they see mommy sleeping till noon and watching TV all day while drinking alcohol and smoking then they grow up considering that to be normal. And they end up doing the same thing.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:06 am to
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Visit the epicenter of just about any large city, and then come tell me that's where you would prefer to raise a family.


Yeah... why would anyone want to raise children in a place with good schools, where they can make money. Weak!
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14237 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Take "Gay Marriage" as an example. Three times, 3, the majority of Californians overwhelmingly voted against it. In the most liberal state in America, the vast majority voted against a cornerstone of the lib agenda.

Those either must have been Rasmussen polls or polls taken in the 1990's.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27261 posts
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:05 pm to
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Rasmussen polls or polls taken in the 1990's.


It was actual VOTES on propositions in the 2000's in California... You do know the difference between polls and votes, right?
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