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Democrats Can’t Find $5 Billion for Border Wall But Gifted Iranian Regime with $5.7 Billio
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:20 pm
These are the same Democrats who under Barack Obama gifted the Iranian regime with $5.7 billion and a pallet of cash.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:22 pm to Jjdoc
midnight plane runs an shite.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:26 pm to Jjdoc
Dems are the enemy of America, as soon as you accept it, everything will start making sense
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:34 pm to Jjdoc
Trumpkins Stuck On Stupid as always
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:29 pm to Jjdoc
Liberals in the state of New York just gave 3 billion in tax incentives to Amazon and the richest man in the world, just saying
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:31 pm to Jjdoc
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a pallet of cash.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:30 am to Jjdoc
Stupid fake news... you just can't help yourself.
"Half-True
Donald Trump says Iran got $150 billion and $1.8 billion in cash. That's Half True
By Jon Greenberg on Friday, April 27th, 2018 at 10:49 a.m.
In a wide ranging phone call to Fox & Friends, President Donald Trump repeated his objection to the 2015 nuclear agreement that rolled back Iran’s nuclear program.
"The past administration made a horrible deal giving $150 billion," Trump said April 26 on the Fox News morning show. "Giving $1.8 billion in cash — in actual cash carried out in barrels and in boxes from airplanes."
Of the two numbers he gave, $150 billion and $1.8 billion, the first is dodgy and the second is slightly exaggerated. And there’s no evidence that barrels and boxes were involved.
We reached out to the White House and will add their response when it arrives.
The $150 billion
The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.
Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.
After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.
In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.
It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
The $1.8 billion
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The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.
That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.
As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.
The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped."
Please stop lying to everyone on this board everyday
"Half-True
Donald Trump says Iran got $150 billion and $1.8 billion in cash. That's Half True
By Jon Greenberg on Friday, April 27th, 2018 at 10:49 a.m.
In a wide ranging phone call to Fox & Friends, President Donald Trump repeated his objection to the 2015 nuclear agreement that rolled back Iran’s nuclear program.
"The past administration made a horrible deal giving $150 billion," Trump said April 26 on the Fox News morning show. "Giving $1.8 billion in cash — in actual cash carried out in barrels and in boxes from airplanes."
Of the two numbers he gave, $150 billion and $1.8 billion, the first is dodgy and the second is slightly exaggerated. And there’s no evidence that barrels and boxes were involved.
We reached out to the White House and will add their response when it arrives.
The $150 billion
The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.
Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.
After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.
In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.
It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
The $1.8 billion
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By American Express
The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.
That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.
As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.
The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped."
Please stop lying to everyone on this board everyday
Posted on 12/12/18 at 5:59 am to Jjdoc
Are you forgetting that the GOP wouldn’t fund the wall either?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:19 am to Jjdoc
OP, did we “give” Iran any of OUR money, or did we return THEIR money to them?
In other words, did the money sent to Iran come out of the federal budget or affect the federal budget in any way? If not, how is the first relevant to the second in any way whatsoever!
I am NOT asking whether we SHOULD have sent ANY money. That is an entirely different discussion.
Whose money was it? Simple question.
In other words, did the money sent to Iran come out of the federal budget or affect the federal budget in any way? If not, how is the first relevant to the second in any way whatsoever!
I am NOT asking whether we SHOULD have sent ANY money. That is an entirely different discussion.
Whose money was it? Simple question.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:49 am to Jjdoc
Unfreezing Iranian assets that we took is not the same things as “giving” them billions of dollars but by all means don’t let facts get in the way of a good troll thread.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:59 am to Jjdoc
Dems and Obama were always open to giving away secret plane loads of cash
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 7:01 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:44 am to Jjdoc
It was their money.
Try Again
Try Again
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:53 am to Jjdoc
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These are the same Democrats who under Barack Obama gifted the Iranian regime with $5.7 billion and a pallet of cash.
I'm sorry but that is simply wrong and has been discussed on this board ad nauseum.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:48 am to Jjdoc
Democrats love terrorists, whether they be in Iran or crossing the southern border.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:38 am to Jjdoc
Why aren't seized assets of a nation that sponsors terrorism, and is our ideological enemy, considered forfeited assets? Who in their right mind is going to return billions to someone who wants you eradicated?
Why not use the forfeited assets to build the Wall, or strengthen borders defenses?
Why not use the forfeited assets to build the Wall, or strengthen borders defenses?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:39 pm to Jjdoc
What if we spend $5 billion on our disabled veterans?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:49 pm to Jjdoc
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Barack Obama gifted the Iranian regime with $5.7 billion and a pallet of cash.
I get so tired of explaining this to the dimwitted, but I'll try one more time....
The United States stole this money from Iran. It was given to the United States as part of an arms deal with the Shah (the brutal dictator that was a puppet for the West). When the people of Iran overthrew the Shah and installed the Ayatollah, the United States didn't deliver the arms as agreed to AND we kept the money that was given to us. We literally STOLE the money and refused to give it back or deliver the arms as promised. Here's a link, but I'll doubt you'll read it: LINK
This decision was almost the only thing that the Obama Admin did that was worth a damn. We need to normalize relations with Iran and stop picking sides in the ME. We are losing billions of dollars and thousands of US soldiers over there fighting conflicts that have been raging since the Old Testament. Time to stop.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:59 pm to Jjdoc
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Democrats Can’t Find $5 Billion for Border Wall
That’s because Mexico is paying for it. Any day now.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 1:03 pm to Jjdoc
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These are the same Democrats who under Barack Obama gifted the Iranian regime with $5.7 billion and a pallet of cash.
Link?
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