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Why Property Is Theft and Why It Matters

Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:36 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432272 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:36 pm
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The correct answer to this question, reached by Proudhon but not Locke, is that the only way to move from universal common ownership to individual private ownership is through theft. When an individual appropriates pieces of the earth (e.g. land) out of the commons and into private ownership, that individual steals from everyone else.


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Somehow (regardless of how its justified), individuals are permitted to appropriate pieces of the world privately. The upshot of such appropriation is that everyone else’s previously-existing ability to access and use the appropriated piece of the world is stolen from them without their consent. Those who do not go along with having their access and use stolen from them are met with violence. This is theft. Access and use, both valuable things, are taken from people at the barrel of a gun.


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The reason I bring up the fact that property is theft is because most actually-existing libertarian arguments are premised upon the idea that so-called laissez-faire capitalism is somehow voluntary and liberty-respecting. It is, of course, neither. The institutions that make up laissez-faire capitalism, the institution of private property especially, are imposed involuntarily on populations whether they want them or not. And to the extent that such involuntary impositions are enforced by violently attacking other human beings when they don’t comply, they are liberty-infringing.


saw this discussion on FB after reading the comments to this pic

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
122362 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:38 pm to
Cute
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
23836 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:38 pm to
I hate paying rent too!
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:39 pm to
Cool you found some wack jobs on the internet. Congrats.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:39 pm to
What are they arguing in the pic you posted? Capitalism is bad? Government welfare is bad?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
30953 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:40 pm to
What a fricking retard. They think they can live in a structure built and owned by someone else for free?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
59501 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:40 pm to
So lefties are now fine with people squatting in thier homes and on thier property?
Posted by CoachMoorGut
Member since Sep 2018
725 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:41 pm to
It always amuses me the people who complain about "rent for existing". Perhaps when they grow up they'll figure out about property taxes.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
71323 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:41 pm to
"gender is not sex

property is theft

marriage is not a man and a woman"


how many words and terms are they going to redefine in order to meet their utopian vision ?



Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
20177 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:41 pm to
There are crazy people everywhere. What’s hilarious about this brand of crazy people is that it’s exactly their crazy beliefs that get them evicted, beaten, shot, and jailed.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
28522 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:42 pm to
What about cars and food and clothes? Can I own them or is that in the public domain as well?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
81069 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:45 pm to
I vote we seize Madagascar and raze any infrastructure and remnants of human existence and offer internet libertarians a one way ticket.

Keep a satellite and drones over it and sell it as reality TV.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18680 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:46 pm to
I honestly can understand what they're getting at if we're talking about just land, but these people want fricking housing for free. They want people who work for money and property to have their money and property taken from them and given away to people not out of need or because they're on hard times but just because they think they're entitled to free shite. frick em.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:47 pm to
That article triggered me. I went from chuckling, to rage, to REEEEEEE and back to laughing.

The article didn’t progress like that, I just went through different layers of disbelief.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9943 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:52 pm to


This legit made my head hurt.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
118915 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:53 pm to
When I see stuff like this that’s so dumb and insane, I don’t even know how to argue against it.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:55 pm to
These people are so stupid
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135704 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:58 pm to
I love how they think the government isn't comprised of people
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
941 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:00 pm to
So playing this argument out, if I eat an apple that has grown on this magical land where nobody owns anything I am stealing. Nobody would be able to feed themselves without 'stealing' resources from one another.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11452 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 8:23 pm to
There are a few people stealing the air I breathe that I'd like to put an end to...
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