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re: What to do if given a merit based promotion but no raise? **Updated Page 3**
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:12 pm to Kracka
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:12 pm to Kracka
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see this happen all the time. They give you more shite to do, yet do not want to pay for it. You are against a rock and a hard place. Bitch about it and they'll tell you to hit the road. Give them an ultimatum and they'll likely call your bluff....Or maybe they cave. But it's not likely.
I would stay at the job with the new title until another presents itself, presumably with higher pay.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:24 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I would stay at the job with the new title until another presents itself, presumably with higher pay.
Then I would leave with no 2 week notice and tell them the reason why I am doing it. They didn't value me enough to pay me more, I don't value them enough to give them a heads up.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:30 pm to Kracka
I agree with most of what everyone has said in this thread. Thanks fellas
I’ll let y’all know how the announcement goes for me.
I’ll let y’all know how the announcement goes for me.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:30 pm to Flanders
What's your compensation as compared to the industry?
Are you expecting a "standard" raise, just not an above average one? Or zero raise?
Is the promotion timing aligned with when raises are given, or is it off-schedule?
Are you expecting a "standard" raise, just not an above average one? Or zero raise?
Is the promotion timing aligned with when raises are given, or is it off-schedule?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:33 pm to GRTiger
quote:current role above average. New role with same pay below average.
What's your compensation as compared to the industry?
quote:i am not expecting a raise.
Are you expecting a "standard" raise, just not an above average one? Or zero raise?
quote:off schedule
Is the promotion timing aligned with when raises are given, or is it off-schedule?
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:30 am to Centinel
I have my answer..
No monetary compensation has been offered for the task of taking on more responsibility. I left the office for 30 minutes to gather myself and talk to someone I trust to steer me straight.
I got the same advice as the OT.
I am going to speak to my manager one more time and see if I can get him to see that this is unfair. If that fails I will call his immediate manager.
No monetary compensation has been offered for the task of taking on more responsibility. I left the office for 30 minutes to gather myself and talk to someone I trust to steer me straight.
I got the same advice as the OT.
I am going to speak to my manager one more time and see if I can get him to see that this is unfair. If that fails I will call his immediate manager.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:30 am to Flanders
New title should look good on the fresh resume you're sending out.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:31 am to Flanders
Respectfully decline until there is a raise involved with the “promotion”.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:55 am to Flanders
In, want see how this goes.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:58 am to Flanders
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What to do if given a merit based promotion but no raise?
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:59 am to Flanders
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going to speak to my manager one more time and see if I can get him to see that this is unfair. If that fails I will call his immediate manager.
Going above your immediate manager almost never works unless its for something that is a fireable offense to your immediate manager, and this certainly is not.
No matter what the other manager says, your relationship with your immediate manager will then be trashed.
I wouldn't do shite. Either suck it up and keep working the job with the extra work, or start looking for a new job. I'd likely do both.
Also, you need to analyze how long this will be. If its just a short term thing for a year or so then just suck it up before you get another promotion or pay increase. If its likely long term then certainly re evaluate your long term future there.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:00 am to go ta hell ole miss
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Respectfully decline until there is a raise involved with the “promotion”.
Agreed. Who wants more work for the same pay?
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:01 am to Flanders
If you do take it, bitch about the compensation, become friends with your superiors on LinkedIn, update your title, and open your profile to recruiters.
You never get a second chance to start with higher pay, and you'll always be getting paid less than others who started higher
You never get a second chance to start with higher pay, and you'll always be getting paid less than others who started higher
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:05 am to Flanders
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see if I can get him to see that this is unfair. If that fails I will call his immediate manager.
Yeah don’t do that. Just accept the promotion and look for a new job if you don’t want to continue working there. Your new title may get you better job offers.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:15 am to Flanders
Are you under some sort of government contract? Because it sounds like the kind of shite that companies that have contract relationships with government entities like the USPS used to do.....they call it reclassification and allows them to get away with shite
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:20 am to Flanders
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If that fails I will call his immediate manager
Do you have any reason to believe this would be productive or at least not destructive? Do you know him well or is that a fairly typical protocol? Because generally that’s considered taking a shot across the bow.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:22 am to Flanders
quote:pack your desk first
I am going to speak to my manager one more time and see if I can get him to see that this is unfair. If that fails I will call his immediate manager.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:31 am to Flanders
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I am going to speak to my manager one more time and see if I can get him to see that this is unfair. If that fails I will call his immediate manager.
Yeah probably not the best call. Your mgr is probably getting direction from his mgr, so not gonna go anywhere, other than your mgr getting giving you the "I sent you" look from now on.
Sit with your HR person, and discuss it to make sure you understand how it works, etc. They will then know your concern, and how you are expected to do more and produce without a known compensation...monetary or not. you are trying to grasp how this benefits you into the future.
Then start being open to talking to other companies, but dont be shopping hard since you have little time in the position.
The no 2 weeks notice move is good, but definitely make sure you arent going to be wanting to come asking for your job again.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:10 pm to Flanders
Do what you have to do for now but start looking for another job. When you get another offer just resign with no notice. Frick these companies that do this to employees. They don’t value you and are willing to risk you leaving to get more productivity for the same cost.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:18 pm to Flanders
You got screwed, welcome to corporate america
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