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re: Questions about the teaching profession.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:04 am to Tri City Tigers
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:04 am to Tri City Tigers
THIS has got to be the most ignorant shite I've ever read on TD. And that is saying a lot because there are a lot of dumb arse mofos on TD.
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Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:08 am to PrimeTime Money
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Teachers get off for spring break, Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc. on top of having the whole summer off.
So yes, there is a huge difference in time actually working.
This post was edited on 10/18 at 8:45 am
Save for Summers and Spring Break, many jobs get those times off. You could take a week off depending on your PTO (but I realize they dont have to use PTO for that).
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:10 am to volod
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Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher? Education is known to be one of the easier degrees to get.
In a lot of ways, it sucks. Unsupportive administration, unruly children, and lots of government overreach.
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Is it a choice just like other professions? You could always go back to school to get another degree that pays better.
It is, and for many it's a poor choice. I've had teachers who were born to teach a subject, and I've had teachers that are just collecting a paycheck. Regardless of why students go into teaching, sometimes I don't think they're prepared for the reality of what they will face in the classroom. They end up disillusioned and miserable.
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Do you believe teacher pay is fair? I realize that not working in the classroom for 1/4 of the year is one factor why its paid low. Also, do teachers unions hurt the salaries overall?
Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. Teacher salaries in MS are quite low. The cost of living in MS is pretty low too, but I can go across to Alabama and make more money with a comparable cost of living.
Generally I think teachers deserve to make more money than they do and should be respected more than they are. Part of the problem with teacher salaries is most people scoff at the idea of all the paid vacation time they get, but ultimately this is not the fault of the teacher.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:10 am to PrimeTime Money
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I did some google searches. Average teacher salary is $56,000. But that’s for 9 months work. Extrapolate that over 12 months, and they are making the equivalent of $75,000 on average.
Then I looked up the average salary of an accountant. It’s $76,000.
So the average teacher salary is equal to the average salary of an accountant.
That to me seems completely reasonable and doesn’t seem like teachers are underpaid.
Google searches, huh? Boy you must be an expert on all topics. Not all teachers have 30 years tenure and are teaching in New York/LA. Teachers in Louisiana make $30,000 annually.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:12 am to volod
I'm a teacher/coach; I'll take a stab at your questions.
Most employees complain about their jobs. I've learned that you can't major in the minors. I enjoy my job, but there are frustrating parts just like every job in the world.
I can't answer that. Got my undergrad in Accounting and then a Master's in Sport Administration.
It's a choice that I'm glad that I made. I started off coaching in the college ranks, but wanted to get married and start a family. With the time that being a college coach required and the minimal pay, I decided to get into high coaching and teaching. I have loved the majority of my time doing it, and would not change a thing. I love being in the classroom as much as I love coaching my team. And I am just as hard and demanding on my students as I am with my players.
There is always room for improvement.
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Why do most teachers complain about being a teacher?
Most employees complain about their jobs. I've learned that you can't major in the minors. I enjoy my job, but there are frustrating parts just like every job in the world.
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Education is known to be one of the easier degrees to get.
I can't answer that. Got my undergrad in Accounting and then a Master's in Sport Administration.
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s it a choice just like other professions?
It's a choice that I'm glad that I made. I started off coaching in the college ranks, but wanted to get married and start a family. With the time that being a college coach required and the minimal pay, I decided to get into high coaching and teaching. I have loved the majority of my time doing it, and would not change a thing. I love being in the classroom as much as I love coaching my team. And I am just as hard and demanding on my students as I am with my players.
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Do you believe teacher pay is fair?
There is always room for improvement.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:13 am to Thias2685
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No, the pay is shite and far from fair.
What's fair?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:16 am to sahu01
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A teacher gets payed $50k-$80k with the median somewhere in there.
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They get summers off with the exception of work weeks. And, they get the same breaks throughout the school year as the students do.
They're spending much of that time doing school work.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:17 am to Masterag
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Actually, it’s more like 10.5 when you consider all the days teachers are there without kids. Considering most professional jobs have 2-6 weeks of vacation every year, theres really not that much difference in time actually working.
The kids are there 180 days each school year. So 6 months. The average teacher is not working an extra 4.5 months without students. That's just a lie. Now if you're talking about coaches, especially those that do strength and conditioning, that's accurate.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:17 am to Sao
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Where?
Manhattan.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:17 am to volod
They get into it thinking they will be changing the world. When that doesn't happen, they start bitching
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:19 am to volod
I always say the same thing.
If you don’t like the pay, nobody made you be a teacher. You chose the profession.
If you don’t like the pay, nobody made you be a teacher. You chose the profession.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:20 am to Thias2685
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Thias2685
I realize that you and many others on here have family who teaches. So do I.
I have known about the challenges teachers face, which is why I decided to go back to school (and may do it again). I realize that I dont have the gumption to make a career out of it.
Where you teach also plays a big role. What I don't understand is that on average private school teachers are paid less nationally.
Standardized testing ruined education as far as I'm concerned.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:21 am to Thias2685
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They're spending much of that time doing school work.
I hear this, but my time teaching I didn't see it.
We usually started school at 8a, school was out at 2:10p. We had an hour free during the day plus lunch, and hung around til 4p doing lesson plans and grading stuff.
Most organized teachers didn't take a hell of a lot home with them. They also worked summers doing charter fishing, tourism, etc.
I know a few teachers that set aside a few hours on weekends to do stuff but overall they didn't spend more hours working during school session than people with regular jobs.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:22 am to Masterag
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Actually, it’s more like 10.5 when you consider all the days teachers are there without kids. Considering most professional jobs have 2-6 weeks of vacation every year, theres really not that much difference in time actually working.
What
An idiot.
Yeah, my company shuts down for a week at Thanksgiving, 2 weeks at Christmas, a week for fall break, a few days for nardi grass, a another week for spring break......
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:23 am to JJ27
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The kids are there 180 days each school year. So 6 months.
So, There are these things called weekends. Have you heard of them?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
Well this isn't for sure. This is the TRS premium matrix for all Texas teachers.
For anyone reading, how would these options change your take home pay?
For anyone reading, how would these options change your take home pay?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:26 am to PrimeTime Money
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Teachers get off for spring break, Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc. on top of having the whole summer off.
So yes, there is a huge difference in time actually working.
Teachers aren't paid hourly, dipshit. Half of their summer is spent prepping for the next school year. They are stuck working outside of school hours at home every evening, weekend, and holidays.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:27 am to ksayetiger
Man some of yall are really fricking ignorant.
My wife is a teacher here is Ga. She makes 50k, will be almost 60k when she finishes her masters. She gets off right before memorial day, and goes back the last week of July. So 9 weeks off during the summer, almost 3 at Christmas, and 3 more full weeks for fall break, Thanksgiving, and spring break. That's 15 weeks.
She rarely every brings home work, and if she does it's for 1-2 hours a week. These people working every night and weekend are just dumb. She doesn't do any work at all for her job over breaks. For the summer she did a couple weeks of summer school which paid a lot extra, and then volunteered and chilled.
Unless you're in a shite district, or an absolute dumbass is a great job.
My wife is a teacher here is Ga. She makes 50k, will be almost 60k when she finishes her masters. She gets off right before memorial day, and goes back the last week of July. So 9 weeks off during the summer, almost 3 at Christmas, and 3 more full weeks for fall break, Thanksgiving, and spring break. That's 15 weeks.
She rarely every brings home work, and if she does it's for 1-2 hours a week. These people working every night and weekend are just dumb. She doesn't do any work at all for her job over breaks. For the summer she did a couple weeks of summer school which paid a lot extra, and then volunteered and chilled.
Unless you're in a shite district, or an absolute dumbass is a great job.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:27 am to volod
1. Low pay
2. Unruly kids
3. Bureaucratic red tape
4. Nonsense curriculum requirements
5. Annoying parents
6. Lots of additional work after hours (grading papers, after school programs, etc) that aren’t compensated for.
They have great perks like outstanding benefits and lots of time off, but it’s not a job that’s for everyone.
2. Unruly kids
3. Bureaucratic red tape
4. Nonsense curriculum requirements
5. Annoying parents
6. Lots of additional work after hours (grading papers, after school programs, etc) that aren’t compensated for.
They have great perks like outstanding benefits and lots of time off, but it’s not a job that’s for everyone.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 10/18/18 at 9:27 am to JJ27
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The kids are there 180 days each school year. So 6 months.
180 days/5 days a week, 36 weeks/4 weeks per month = 9 months. Factor in staff development/student holidays at a rate of 1 per month, 9 additional days which is almost 2 weeks = 9.5 months.
Teachers are generally required to do staff development before the school year, and they have to do end of year things after the students are no longer in school = another two weeks = 10 months. And that's not taking into account things like working late/weekends.
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