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Why do Republicans ignore Divorce and Male Reproductive Rights for Men
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:17 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:17 am
1. If a woman gets pregnant, she has the option of abortion or birth.
However, a man is stuck with whatever decision. He has no say in abortion and if she decides on birth, he has no legal way to get out of child support if he doesn't want kids.
2. Alimony is a dated concept. The fact that a person of either gender can not properly take care of themselves and is owed money from a spouse is a direct violation against Republicanism in general. If put in any other context, its welfare.
3. Judges should not have the power to annul a legally binding Prenuptial Agreement. Only if the document in question violates another law or was prepared outside legal jurisdiction.
This is one of many reasons why some people feel betrayed by the GOP. They don't have the courage to actually enact real change at the domestic level. It's almost as if they are stuck in 1950s. That's not an effective way to govern nation that leads the world.
Yes. I feel very strongly on this issue.
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:20 am to volod
One of your worst posts ever, which is a staggering accomplishment.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 8:05 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:21 am to timdonaghyswhistle
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of your worsts posts ever, which is a staggering accomplishment.
I cant change your opinion. However, what makes this a bad post?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:23 am to volod
Do you actually think men blame a particular political party for failure to control their baby making parts?
eta: To answer your question more directly, I had to upvote AggieHank's rebuttal. THAT is how bad it was.
eta: To answer your question more directly, I had to upvote AggieHank's rebuttal. THAT is how bad it was.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 7:33 am
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:26 am to volod
There is a lot I unpack but why do these particular issues make you feel betrayed by the GOP? Seems rather dramatic considering they aren’t really stated party policy.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:29 am to timdonaghyswhistle
I'm not saying to purely blame politics. However, there are laws in place that are unjust to men in general.
The only way to solve it us to push for laws that protect men from divorce rape and Paternity fraud.
The biggest obstacles are far left men who put women on a pedestal and very conservative men who still believe in traditional family values contrary to what every lawyer in Family Law knows.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:31 am to volod
1. Promoting abortion as a way to avoid child support obligations would appear to be contrary to ... well, EVERYTHING else on the GOP agenda.
2. Not if the spouse receiving alimony ababdoned or curtailed professional development as a result of a marital decision. “Honey, stay home, and I will support you” until kicked to the curb for a younger model.
3. I have litigated hundreds of divorces, and I have never seen a judge “annul” a properly-executed Pre-Nup consistent with state law. That is not to say that all purported pre-nups are written in an enforceable manner or that they were properly executed.
I cannot speak to other States, but Texas law has improved markedly in the last 30 years or so, as far as the man’s rights.
2. Not if the spouse receiving alimony ababdoned or curtailed professional development as a result of a marital decision. “Honey, stay home, and I will support you” until kicked to the curb for a younger model.
3. I have litigated hundreds of divorces, and I have never seen a judge “annul” a properly-executed Pre-Nup consistent with state law. That is not to say that all purported pre-nups are written in an enforceable manner or that they were properly executed.
I cannot speak to other States, but Texas law has improved markedly in the last 30 years or so, as far as the man’s rights.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:31 am to volod
I'd suggest more men put some serious thought into who they procreate with, instead of relying on politicians to bail them out of bad choices.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:31 am to volod
Sorry your chick left you.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:33 am to FooManChoo
quote:
s a lot I unpack but why do these particular issues make you feel betrayed by the GOP? Seems rather dramatic considering they aren’t really stated party policy.
Well let me ask you. What does the GOP mean to you.
Also. What is the best way to address the aforementioned problems.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:34 am to volod
it's almost as if neither party gives a damn about what is right and only cares about what will get votes.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:36 am to volod
Complex questions, but why choose to spotlight GOP for thousands of years of tradition?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:36 am to AggieHank86
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1. Promoting abortion as a way to avoid child support obligations would appear to be contrary to ... well, EVERYTHING else on the GOP agenda.
it isn't promoting it as a way to avoid child support. it's addressing a double standard. I'm pro life btw. A woman can get knocked up and escape all responsibility for her actions through abortion while the man has no say in what happens to a child that is half his. If the man wants to escape responsibility he can be court ordered to pay for the child and even end up in jail over it. I could imagine women would be a lot more careful about who they banged if there was more risk associated with sex like back in the old days.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:37 am to volod
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1. If a woman gets pregnant, she has the option of abortion or birth.
Why do you think republicans defend this action? This is the case because the Left has classified this a "it my body" issue. Republicans (majority? or at least platform wise) are against abortion all together. and not sure what point on this you are attacking. good luck getting a woman to have an abortion if she wants to keep it and the man does not. but the only way to prevent a woman from having one and the man wanting to keep it is if abortion was illigal.
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2. Alimony is a dated concept. The fact that a person of either gender can not properly take care of themselves and is owed money from a spouse is a direct violation against Republicanism in general. If put in any other context, its welfare.
There are two types of Alimony. One is support through the divorce process. the other is post final divorce proceeding support. I can see the need for support during the process, but not post final divorce. i dont see where a political party champions this over the other party
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3. Judges should not have the power to annul a legally binding Prenuptial Agreement. Only if the document in question violates another law or was prepared outside legal jurisdiction.
Not familiar with this issue? does this happen often for non-legal issues (paperwork not legally set-up)
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This is one of many reasons why some people feel betrayed by the GOP. They don't have the courage to actually enact real change at the domestic level. It's almost as if they are stuck in 1950s. That's not an effective way to govern nation that leads the world.
Yes. I feel very strongly on this issue.
I don see where this is a specifically GOP issue. i dont see either side specific to the issue, with the exception of abortion. an alimony and pre-nup are state inforced laws, so this would be addressed on the state level, nat federal level.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:38 am to volod
Because women can vote
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:40 am to celltech1981
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I could imagine women would be a lot more careful about who they banged if there was more risk associated with sex like back in the old days.
Yes, that's exactly what we need: more risk and uncertainty involved with sex and its consequences.
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:42 am to timdonaghyswhistle
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Yes, that's exactly what we need: more risk and uncertainty involved with sex and its consequences.
Found the male feminist
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:44 am to el Gaucho
Understanding the importance of certainty in family law is "feminist"?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:45 am to volod
You incel, bro?
Posted on 8/30/18 at 7:46 am to celltech1981
quote:He asked a political question about why the GOP is not taking a particulat position. I gave him the realpolitik answer.quote:it isn't promoting it as a way to avoid child support. it's addressing a double standard. I'm pro life btw. A woman can get knocked up and escape all responsibility for her actions through abortion while the man has no say in what happens to a child that is half his. If the man wants to escape responsibility he can be court ordered to pay for the child and even end up in jail over it. I could imagine women would be a lot more careful about who they banged if there was more risk associated with sex like back in the old days.
Promoting abortion as a way to avoid child support obligations would appear to be contrary to ... well, EVERYTHING else on the GOP agenda.
I agree that there is a double standard, but that is an entirely different issue.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 7:47 am
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