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re: Alleva hired the following at Duke in a similar fashion to Orgeron...
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:25 am to Solo Cam
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:25 am to Solo Cam
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I saw A&M poach Florida States Coach
Giving him the richest contract in college football history isn’t really what poaching a coach looks like.
In your opinion, after Jimbo’s last season, would you have spent $75 million of LSU’s money over a 10 year commitment?
When I read those terms, I was glad Alleva did not throw that much green at Fisher. If we paid Fisher that much, we might not have been able to keep Aranda.
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Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:27 am to Willie Stroker
It’s a valid argument to say it was a bad idea to throw that money at Fisher.
It’s also a valid argument to say that, comparatively, it was a far worse idea to make Orgeron the HC.
It’s also a valid argument to say that, comparatively, it was a far worse idea to make Orgeron the HC.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:29 am to Lebowski
It still pisses me off the contradicting statements he made about "fit" between the basketball and football coach hires. I mean he really thinks we are idiots.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:33 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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Take away Jameis Winston and Jimbo becomes over rated very quickly.
Such a dumb argument... he recruited/ plucked the #1 QB out of Saban's back yard and developed him into a Heisman winner. Recruit, develop, and win...Thats what good coaches do.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:34 am to Lebowski
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fired after 4 years with a 4-42
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5 year record of 9-48
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That’s NINE fricking years of football negligence!
The new NORMAL at LSU.....by Joe Alleva
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:36 am to Willie Stroker
quote:I remember LSU fans bitching about paying Saban too much.
Giving him the richest contract in college football history isn’t really what poaching a coach looks like.
quote:No. But I wouldn’t base the entire hire off of 1 season. Especially since his starting QB was injured the entire year and they started a true freshman. Those facts may hurt your argument though
In your opinion, after Jimbo’s last season, would you have spent $75 million of LSU’s money over a 10 year commitment?
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If the decision was: Go cheap and get Orgeron or spend 4x that and get Jimbo, then I chose Jimbo every fuching time.
Let me as you this:
Would you rather spend 20 million for 5 years of O or 75 for 10 years of Jimbo?
quote:You truly have no concept on how much money the football program makes every year, do you?
When I read those terms, I was glad Alleva did not throw that much green at Fisher. If we paid Fisher that much, we might not have been able to keep Aranda.
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:37 am to Solo Cam
POS Alleva turned it over to TU Alum Ballard then took the cheap way out.
Now the excuses to lay the foundation for a mediocre or a bad season have been thrown right out front and center.
Now the excuses to lay the foundation for a mediocre or a bad season have been thrown right out front and center.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:40 am to Solo Cam
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A search firm handed him Herman. He had 4 months to negotiate and Texas beat him in 10 min.
ETA: I don’t want to hear “We we’re never gonna best Texas” I just watched UCLA and Nebraska best Florida for a coach.
I saw A&M poach Florida States Coach.
The AD had one job that mattered. He threw up all over himself.
damn, that might be the post of the year...
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:41 am to PUB
Yep, but Ballard is finally gone, and hopefully the new BOS won’t be a bunch of good ole boy LA cronies.
It may be a long shot, but at least we know it’s not all the same people.
It may be a long shot, but at least we know it’s not all the same people.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:42 am to Lebowski
I was going to make my own thread today..but I'll just put it here.
Anyone else still having trouble believing we hired Orgeron? I still feel like its twilight zone time.
A @#@#423 failure of a headcoach with zero other suitors.
Anyone else still having trouble believing we hired Orgeron? I still feel like its twilight zone time.
A @#@#423 failure of a headcoach with zero other suitors.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:45 am to Dave England
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A search firm handed him Herman. He had 4 months to negotiate and Texas beat him in 10 min.
"Negotiating" prowess like that should get you one thing: fired
Along with the search firm if Herman was the only guy they brought him.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:52 am to Lebowski
Well, at least Alleva is consistent. This is just further proof of the LSU Admin's total incompetence for hiring the nations most useless AD. A house cleaning is far overdue.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:54 am to tigerborderjumper
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Well, at least Alleva is consistent. This is just further proof of the LSU Admin's total incompetence for hiring the nations most useless AD. A house cleaning is far overdue.
F King Alexander is at the top of my list to hit the road.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 11:57 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Along with the search firm if Herman was the only guy they brought him.
thats ironic considering that LSU fans are obsessed with beating bama and Herman did it with tOSU's third string QB in 2014.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:01 pm to Lebowski
Bobby Dodd wanted to coach at Duke, but said Alleva wouldn’t negotiate.
Cutcliffe was Joes third choice, forced on him by alumni.
Cutcliffe was Joes third choice, forced on him by alumni.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:03 pm to Irish LSU Fan
No use to hire a new coach until we have a new ad first.
New president would of course be too much to even dream about.
New president would of course be too much to even dream about.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:08 pm to Solo Cam
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I saw A&M poach Florida States Coach.
Allegedly LSU offered more money per yr but would not offer more than 5 yrs... I doubt that we would have guaranteed 100% either
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:10 pm to Solo Cam
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I don’t want to hear “We we’re never gonna best Texas” I just watched UCLA and Nebraska best Florida for a coach.
I'm not defending Alleva, and Jimbo and Herman shouldn't have been the only two choices before Orgeron, but this statement is contradictory to your point. We were Florida in this scenario. UF was a better job but got beat out by one alma mater and one school that offered an environment the coach wanted more, a familiar conference and city that recruits itself. It happens.
Alleva should have understood that and had more options, especially with all the time he had, but there was nothing he could have done to get Herman. He had been telling people for 3 years he was going back to UT. Jimbo obviously wasn't going to settle for anything less than unfettered loyalty in the form of a $75M contract. The only coach that can demand that kind of unquestioned commitment from a big time program is Saban, no way LSU should or would have signed off on that for Jimbo.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:11 pm to BDJ
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The board plays a huge part in LSUs hires. It has never appeared to me that Alleva has 100% control of all decisions in regards to hiring.
Main reason Scott Woodward won’t come back.
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:13 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Take away Jameis Winston and Jimbo becomes over rated very quickly. I am glad we did not give him that crazy contract
Take away Dave Aranda and Orgeron doesn't win 6 games last year.
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