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Here's why the Oscars have been falling in the ratings in recent years
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:20 pm
The following is a list of the Best Picture winners from the past 57 years. Where they finished ranked at the yearly box office is indicated out to the right and the average finish for the decade is ranked below each column.
Why the Oscars are seen as out of touch with the rest of America becomes evident fairly early on.
1960: The Apartment (#6)
1961: West Side Story (#1)
1962: Lawrence of Arabia (#1)
1963: Tom Jones (#4)
1964: My Fair Lady (#1)
1965: The Sound of Music (#1)
1966: A Man For All Seasons (#5)
1967: In the Heat of the Night (#11)
1968: Oliver! (#7)
1969: Midnight Cowboy (#2)
Average Finish: 3.9
1970: Patton (#4)
1971: The French Connection (#2)
1972: The Godfather (#1)
1973: The Sting (#1)
1974: The Godfather Part II (#7)
1975: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (#3)
1976: Rocky (#1)
1977: Annie Hall (#10)
1978: The Deer Hunter (#9)
1979: Kramer vs. Kramer (#1)
Average Finish: 3.9
1980: Ordinary People (#11)
1981: Chariots of Fire (#7)
1982: Gandhi (#12)
1983: Terms of Endearment (#2)
1984: Amadeus (#12)
1985: Out of Africa (#5)
1986: Platoon (#3)
1987: The Last Emperor (#25)
1988: Rain Man (#1)
1989: Driving Miss Daisy (#8)
Average Finish: 8.6
1990: Dances With Wolves (#3)
1991: The Silence of the Lambs (#4)
1992: Unforgiven (#11)
1993: Schindler's List (#9)
1994: Forrest Gump (#1)
1995: Braveheart (#18)
1996: The English Patient (#19)
1997: Titanic (#1)
1998: Shakespeare in Love (#18)
1999: American Beauty (#13)
Average Finish: 9.7
2000: Gladiator (#4)
2001: A Beautiful Mind (#11)
2002: Chicago (#10)
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (#1)
2004: Million Dollar Baby (#24)
2005: Crash (#49)
2006: The Departed (#15)
2007: No Country For Old Men (#36)
2008: Slumdog Millionaire (#16)
2009: The Hurt Locker (#116)
Average Finish: 28.2
2010: The King's Speech (#18)
2011: The Artist (#71)
2012: Argo (#22)
2013: 12 Years a Slave (#62)
2014: Birdman (#78)
2015: Spotlight (#62)
2016: Moonlight (#92)
2017: The Shape of Water (#46)
Average Finish: 56.37
Why the Oscars are seen as out of touch with the rest of America becomes evident fairly early on.
1960: The Apartment (#6)
1961: West Side Story (#1)
1962: Lawrence of Arabia (#1)
1963: Tom Jones (#4)
1964: My Fair Lady (#1)
1965: The Sound of Music (#1)
1966: A Man For All Seasons (#5)
1967: In the Heat of the Night (#11)
1968: Oliver! (#7)
1969: Midnight Cowboy (#2)
Average Finish: 3.9
1970: Patton (#4)
1971: The French Connection (#2)
1972: The Godfather (#1)
1973: The Sting (#1)
1974: The Godfather Part II (#7)
1975: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (#3)
1976: Rocky (#1)
1977: Annie Hall (#10)
1978: The Deer Hunter (#9)
1979: Kramer vs. Kramer (#1)
Average Finish: 3.9
1980: Ordinary People (#11)
1981: Chariots of Fire (#7)
1982: Gandhi (#12)
1983: Terms of Endearment (#2)
1984: Amadeus (#12)
1985: Out of Africa (#5)
1986: Platoon (#3)
1987: The Last Emperor (#25)
1988: Rain Man (#1)
1989: Driving Miss Daisy (#8)
Average Finish: 8.6
1990: Dances With Wolves (#3)
1991: The Silence of the Lambs (#4)
1992: Unforgiven (#11)
1993: Schindler's List (#9)
1994: Forrest Gump (#1)
1995: Braveheart (#18)
1996: The English Patient (#19)
1997: Titanic (#1)
1998: Shakespeare in Love (#18)
1999: American Beauty (#13)
Average Finish: 9.7
2000: Gladiator (#4)
2001: A Beautiful Mind (#11)
2002: Chicago (#10)
2003: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (#1)
2004: Million Dollar Baby (#24)
2005: Crash (#49)
2006: The Departed (#15)
2007: No Country For Old Men (#36)
2008: Slumdog Millionaire (#16)
2009: The Hurt Locker (#116)
Average Finish: 28.2
2010: The King's Speech (#18)
2011: The Artist (#71)
2012: Argo (#22)
2013: 12 Years a Slave (#62)
2014: Birdman (#78)
2015: Spotlight (#62)
2016: Moonlight (#92)
2017: The Shape of Water (#46)
Average Finish: 56.37
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:22 pm to RollTide1987
The King's Speech, 12 Years a Slave, and Spotlight were all damn good and I deserving IMO. But yeah the rest for the last decade are clearly a bit snobby.
I haven't seen Argo before anyone crucifies me for not listing it.
I haven't seen Argo before anyone crucifies me for not listing it.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:23 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
the Oscars are seen as out of touch with the rest of America
Um, no
You really think Infinity War should be up for Best Picture?
If The Godfather were released today it wouldn’t crack the top 20 at the Box Office.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:24 pm to RollTide1987
Do you really want a correlation between box office and best picture? Micheal Bay multiple Oscar best picture winner sound like a plan to you?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:27 pm to RollTide1987
To be fair, since 2000 a lot of those films have been competing with the Star Wars and Marvel franchises. But I get what you're saying. I have to force myself to watch some of the nominees lately. Not a lot of commercial appeal.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:28 pm to wildtigercat93
The two above me seem to have completely misinterpreted me. I was not arguing that box office equates to quality. I'm simply saying that no one is watching the films that are being nominated and/or winning.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:28 pm to wildtigercat93
I think y'all are missing his point, or maybe I am.
He isn't saying the oscars should or shouldn't be nominating best picture based off of box scores, just that the movies that are getting nominated now are not the most popular movies like they used to be. Therefore, people are less interested in which movie wins the award.
It doesn't mean the movies that do win aren't deserving, just that people don't care that they are winning because they don't care about those movies.
He isn't saying the oscars should or shouldn't be nominating best picture based off of box scores, just that the movies that are getting nominated now are not the most popular movies like they used to be. Therefore, people are less interested in which movie wins the award.
It doesn't mean the movies that do win aren't deserving, just that people don't care that they are winning because they don't care about those movies.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:29 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
2014: Whiplash
2015: Spotlight (#62)
2016: Moonlight (#92)
2017: Darkest Hour
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:31 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
He isn't saying the oscars should or shouldn't be nominating best picture based off of box scores, just that the movies that are getting nominated now are not the most popular movies like they used to be. Therefore, people are less interested in which movie wins the award.
This is EXACTLY what I am saying. Thank you.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:31 pm to jlovel7
quote:
But yeah the rest for the last decade are clearly a bit snobby.
I wonder how Chariots of Fire would do if released in 2018
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:36 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
This is EXACTLY what I am saying. Thank you.
It has much more to do with what movies are being made today than then.
Avengers: Infinity War wasn't being made in the 1960s.
We have seen a drastic shift over 40 years from high quality films being what people flocked to see to popcorn tentpole cinema.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:41 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
It has much more to do with what movies are being made today than then.
Oh, I agree. I feel like Hollywood, for whatever reason, no longer trusts mainstream audiences with high quality films anymore. It saves its Oscar bait movies for projects that cost around $50 million to produce and releases them in only 20-30 theaters at Christmas time.
I know I get shite on for being a Nolanite but I feel his films prove Hollywood wrong. You can make artsy fartsy blockbuster films and make them profitable. Just take a look at the box office returns for Inception and Dunkirk. Both were nominated for Best Picture as well.
If Hollywood were to make more films like that instead of living on superheroes, remakes, and sequels for their tentpole films, you might see people start watching the Oscars again.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
There are several past winners that I don't think today's academy would seriously consider. They've clearly gone in a direction.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:45 pm to PowerTool
Or more simply, no one wants to watch a 4 hour circle jerk anymore. Times have changed.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:46 pm to PowerTool
quote:
There are several past winners that I don't think today's academy would seriously consider. They've clearly gone in a direction.
Such as?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:48 pm to RollTide1987
Man, there was a big drop in quality films from 1968 to 1969. I love Midnight Cowboy, but it's weird that it was the #2 box office draw behind Butch and Sundance.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:
Therefore, people are less interested in which movie wins the award.
They are adding a new award this year, right? The popular award? That will cover the superhero movies that I will see in the theater. I like seeing who wins the day after so I can start downloading the movies I would never pay money to go see.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Such as?
I doubt Titanic wins and wins and no way ROTK goes 11 for 11.
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