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re: Etling only had 2 interceptions in 13 games last season
Posted on 8/19/18 at 10:55 am to OceanMan
Posted on 8/19/18 at 10:55 am to OceanMan
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I remember when the rant begged to throw to TEs and RBs
You’re right. People were begging for us to only use TEs/RBs and quit completing passes to wide receivers at all for entire games. You nailed it
Posted on 8/19/18 at 10:57 am to ctiger69
Only if those stats translate into W's!!
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:08 am to OKTGR580
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Chad Kelly passed for 340 in 2015 and 420 in 2016 on them.
Not a fair comparison. Ole Miss had zero running game those seasons. The vast majority of their offensive yards came from passing the ball against every team.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:11 am to the_watcher
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People were begging for us to only use TEs/RBs and quit completing passes to wide receivers at all for entire games. You nailed it
We won that game by 2 scores, correct? What is your point?
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:12 am to Will2nd
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Not enough TDs..
It was a run first offense. Etling could have thrown more TDs but LSU would have just rather run the ball in from inside the 10 yard line.
2016= LF and Guice had 39 touchdowns.
2017= Guice and Williams had 22 touchdowns.
That is a lot of rushing touchdowns.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:22 am to OceanMan
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We won that game by 2 scores, correct? What is your point?
Oh the classic “we won the game so no realistic assessment of performance is warranted” excuse. We won that game by a couple scores. HE HAD 9 completions, 4 of which were caught behind the line of scrimmage against an awful defense. In the other game with 1 total wide receiver catch we won by 1 point because the other team missed a PAT. You left that part out. How convenient
The point is getting the same production as Etling would be an awful result for this football team and lead to several losses. Gaining 6 yards on 3rd and 14 with a rb check down isn’t going to help us. Having games in which our wr’s don’t catch any passes isn’t going to help us. Converting 0 of 8 third down conversions vs. teams like Troy surely won’t help us.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:40 am to ctiger69
With the eye test he failed bad, he only threw 2 int because they stopped him from throwing real routes. He the reason they lost to Bama. They was hiding him all year with those baby passes.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:50 am to OceanMan
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So you don’t have a benchmark then. It’s a legitimate question. I’m not saying he is the benchmark but if you are tired of people saying so then surely you have something in mind? No need to get upset.
The benchmark is the qb needs to be capable of making the throws/plays needed to win games. Don't have to be record setting seasons throwing the ball everywhere like Davey, russell, or mettenberger.
Etling was not capable of making the plays needed to win games. His ceiling was to be careful and not screw things up, and that's what he did. That makes for consistently hard fought grind it out games, where you out-talent inferior teams and never threaten equal or better teams.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:50 am to the_watcher
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Oh the classic “we won the game so no realistic assessment of performance is warranted” excuse. We won that game by a couple scores. HE HAD 9 completions, 4 of which were caught behind the line of scrimmage against an awful defense. In the other game with 1 total wide receiver catch we won by 1 point because the other team missed a PAT. You left that part out. How convenient
So we took what the defense gave us. Yeah, I’m going to use th “we won the game easily” excise here. Complaining about that game is flat out ridiculous. We were never in a position to lose. Those of the sorts of games that if you can’t celebrate as a fan, I’m not sure which you can.
I left out the UF game because you did too. Certainly was not his best game, and if you want to criticize him that would be fair. However I don’t really care about margin of victory and will take a win in the swamp when it is 90 outside in the middle of the day. The year before they “only won” because of our screw ups. That is historically a very tough game for us to win and I will take a W any way we can get it.
All that said, Whether you like it or not, he played well enough to win in that game.
He sucked in the Bama games both years he started, that games is the one we judge our seasons on, so if you want to go there then have at it.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:00 pm to ctiger69
Lee had hardly any interceptions in 2011 and both QBs had good running games.
They had very safe managed games.
I would be much happier with 20+ tds, even if it meant a couple more INTs.
You bring up mayfield. I will gladly take his six INTs last year to go with his 70% completion percentage. Dude also had 40+ TDs, but I won’t ask for that in the SEC.
I saw an Alabama fan absolutely blasting Hurts QB play and how it held the team back and he would gladly take Tua’s ability even if it meant they threw more INTs because he took more risk and he understood he’s going to make some mistakes..
I want an offense that doesn’t play scared of turning the ball over. I’m sick of that shite. It’s very limiting and often has so much punting. I remember when Clemson had Watson and he could throw 3 INTs in a game and yet he was allowed to redeem himself and get the team right back.
Good for Danny for padding his stats against a team like a&m that we dominate, but no I would not be thrilled with the same very underwhelming stats overall.. 125 yard passing games. It’s ridiculous. Combining both games against Florida and Alabama last season, he had 2 total tds and only about 250 yards passing.. and this was much improved from a season before against these two teams, but it’s still so underwhelming.
They had very safe managed games.
I would be much happier with 20+ tds, even if it meant a couple more INTs.
You bring up mayfield. I will gladly take his six INTs last year to go with his 70% completion percentage. Dude also had 40+ TDs, but I won’t ask for that in the SEC.
I saw an Alabama fan absolutely blasting Hurts QB play and how it held the team back and he would gladly take Tua’s ability even if it meant they threw more INTs because he took more risk and he understood he’s going to make some mistakes..
I want an offense that doesn’t play scared of turning the ball over. I’m sick of that shite. It’s very limiting and often has so much punting. I remember when Clemson had Watson and he could throw 3 INTs in a game and yet he was allowed to redeem himself and get the team right back.
Good for Danny for padding his stats against a team like a&m that we dominate, but no I would not be thrilled with the same very underwhelming stats overall.. 125 yard passing games. It’s ridiculous. Combining both games against Florida and Alabama last season, he had 2 total tds and only about 250 yards passing.. and this was much improved from a season before against these two teams, but it’s still so underwhelming.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
How was our red zone offense?
How many third down passes did he miss with receivers wide open in critical situations. Obviously the receivers did their part at stopping drives or dropping TD passes as well.
How many third down passes did he miss with receivers wide open in critical situations. Obviously the receivers did their part at stopping drives or dropping TD passes as well.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:07 pm to OceanMan
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So we took what the defense gave us. Yeah, I’m going to use th “we won the game easily” excise here. Complaining about that game is flat out ridiculous
The terrible Ole Miss defense didn’t only give us RB swing passes behind the LOS. That’s just all he completed. I’m not “complaining about the game.” I’m listing facts about the QB play. You not liking those facts doesn’t make it “complaining”
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I left out the UF game because you did too
I literally said “and a third game in which our WRs caught 1 total pass.” That game was Florida. How did I leave out the Florida game?
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That is historically a very tough game for us to win and I will take a W any way we can get it.
Again, winning a game means we can’t realistically discuss our QB’s performance? How is that logical?
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Whether you like it or not, he played well enough to win in that game.
We won that game despite his performance. My idea of good QB play isn’t “not playing bad enough to lose a game in which we scored 17 total points and competed 1 pass to a receiver
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:18 pm to Pelican fan99
All you QB Whisperers would benefit from understanding the WR position. Breaking off routes, high pointing balls, etc. our receivers and TEs SUCKED in understanding route running the last few years. The offensive philosophy switch last season certainly didn’t help. Our line sucked in understandtibg blitz pick-up.
Bottom line is he was serviceable enough to win 10-11 games last year for sure with any decent receivers and a running game that included a healthy Guice all year.
Chark was on full display yesterday dropping passes in traffic.
Bottom line is he was serviceable enough to win 10-11 games last year for sure with any decent receivers and a running game that included a healthy Guice all year.
Chark was on full display yesterday dropping passes in traffic.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:28 pm to ctiger69
yes he played ok against all but the better teams. Thats why we finished the way we did. If u just wanna be ok then have an ok qb.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:33 pm to OceanMan
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He sucked in the Bama games both years he started, that games is the one we judge our seasons on, so if you want to go there then have at it.
So that goes for Fournette right? Those seasons he SUCKED against Bama not only cost his team, but cost him a Heisman.
No a-hole, it’s a team sport and the offensive line and receivers have as much to do with that as anyone.
Go back and rewatch the pressure up the middle. I DARE you to find a single example of receivers breaking off routes to help him.
There were probably less than 20 catches last season where the receiver high pointed a balm and beat his man. Jarvis ans OBJ consistently beat their man off the line and to the ball. Fitness receivers with zero off the line technique or strength.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:34 pm to Tiger1988
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Bottom line is he was serviceable enough to win 10-11 games last year for sure with any decent receivers and a running game that included a healthy Guice all year.
11 games? This is unequivocally false. He played well enough to beat Mississippi St? We scored 7 points.He played well enough to beat Bama? We scored 10 points. He had 61 yards passing and zero points at home in the first half vs a Sun Belt team in a game in which he had zero third down conversions and was benched. We had a top defense nationally last year. And lost 4 games
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Chark was on full display yesterday dropping passes in traffic.
What does that have to do with what he did at LSU? He was a 2nd round pick and will start in the NFL this season. His 2nd receiver was also drafted. Or does the drafted excuse only work in Etling’s favor but not his own wrs?
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:37 pm to ctiger69
No.
I’d rather more Int if it mean more TDS.
We are so ducking scared of turnovers but st the cost of actually scoring.
He was 57th in TDs and 58th in yards, 53rd in completions.
You have to score points to win games.
Just taking care of the ball does mean shite if you don’t score.
I’d rather more Int if it mean more TDS.
We are so ducking scared of turnovers but st the cost of actually scoring.
He was 57th in TDs and 58th in yards, 53rd in completions.
You have to score points to win games.
Just taking care of the ball does mean shite if you don’t score.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:39 pm to Tiger1988
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So that goes for Fournette right? Those seasons he SUCKED against Bama not only cost his team, but cost him a Heisman.
This is such a mind numbingly dumb response. Fournette was incredible in almost every other game in his career aside from Bama. Etling was not. LF7 stats were awful against the best run d in the country that didn’t have to worry about the QB hurting them.
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No a-hole, it’s a team sport and the offensive line and receivers have as much to do with that as anyone
Why is he an “a-hole” for stating something factual?
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:47 pm to the_watcher
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Etling only had 2 interceptions in 13 games last season
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Bottom line is he was serviceable enough to win 10-11 games last year for sure with any decent receivers and a running game that included a healthy Guice all year.
11 games? This is unequivocally false. He played well enough to beat Mississippi St? We scored 7 points.He played well enough to beat Bama? We scored 10 points. He had 61 yards passing and zero points at home in the first half vs a Sun Belt team in a game in which he had zero third down conversions and was benched. We had a top defense nationally last year. And lost 4 games
Coaching and TOS were the Troy loss. Go back and watch how the TOS impacted that game especially in the first half and at the end of the second half.
Passing yards are as much about the receivers and Oline. Ask Brady.
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What does that have to do with what he did at LSU? He was a 2nd round pick and will start in the NFL this season. His 2nd receiver was also drafted. Or does the drafted excuse only work in Etling’s favor but not his own wrs?
What does a second round pick have to do with what he was Inc college. They draft on potential ie he is fast as hell.
He is also soft. Dude got jammed many times on he line and well SHOULD have been a first round pick if he was decent at route running.
So to your point one has little to do with the other. He can’t catch in traffic is in LB territory. He has the fear of getting hit.
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