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re: Etling only had 2 interceptions in 13 games last season

Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24339 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:50 pm to
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This is such a mind numbingly dumb response. Fournette was incredible in almost every other game in his career aside from Bama.

And that comment was in direct response to your dumb arse comment about Etling versus Bama. What’s your fricking point? How about his dumbass playing against UF? How about that shitty game? 12 rushes for 40 yards and zero tds. He should have sat like he did for Louisville.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71623 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:51 pm to
If we get Etling's production from the QB, with this RB group, we'll be sitting at home for bowl season.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 12:57 pm to
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And that comment was in direct response to your dumb arse comment about Etling versus Bama. What’s your fricking point? How about his dumbass playing against UF? How about that shitty game? 12 rushes for 40 yards and zero tds. He should have sat like he did for Louisville.

Direct response? You responded to someone else. Go check. I only pointed out how asinine it is to think Danny Etling played well enough to win 11 games last season.

Fournette had a few bad statistical games IN 3 years. He’s the best RB in school history. You’re making an awful arguement
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20023 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
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The terrible Ole Miss defense didn’t only give us RB swing passes behind the LOS. That’s just all he completed. I’m not “complaining about the game.” I’m listing facts about the QB play. You not liking those facts doesn’t make it “complaining


Again, what is your point? He completed 9 of 13. We scored 40 points. We won the game easily and had one of the best offensive outputs of the season. If you can beat a team using low risk plays, you do it.

It’s not that I don’t like your facts, I just don’t know how useful they are. You are trying to use the line that he didn’t complete any passes to WRs as evidence that he didn’t have a good game, but nothing else supports that other than your opinion.

And I missed what you said about UF, sorry. I don’t really see the point in arguing about how effective he was in that game however. It was ugly and we won, there will be games like that every single year. It was not his best game, but he did indeed play well enough to win the game. I know this because we won the game.

I’m sorry you don’t like Danny Etling as a player. But he was a decent QB and the facts actually support this, both against his peers last year and historically at LSU.

I think what we learned from Danny is that we were more than a game manage away from being a championship team. Without him, I think the past 2 years would have been pretty damn ugly and we would have been the laughing stock that some of our fans think we are.
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 1:55 pm to
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Again, what is your point? He completed 9 of 13. We scored 40 points. We won the game easily and had one of the best offensive outputs of the season. If you can beat a team using low risk plays, you do it.

Guice ran for 276 in that game! Darrell Williams ran for over 100. Etling had 200 yards passing. 1 completion was a 63 yard pass to williams that traveled 5 yards in the air behind the LOS. Another was a 60 yard completion to Moreau in a complete busted coverage. He ran completely free with no defender within a 20 yard circle radious of him. The majority of high school quarterbacks in America can complete all 9 of the passes he completed in that game.
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I’m sorry you don’t like Danny Etling as a player. But he was a decent QB and the facts actually support this, both against his peers last year and historically at LSU.

No they don’t. He passed for 137 vs Miss St. 125 vs Florida. 137 vs Bama which was actually 45 yards more than he had vs them in 2016. He threw for 81 yards vs Tennessee. His 2016 stats were identical to Brandon Harris in 2015. In 2016 our defense allowed 16 touchdowns. FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON. We didn’t come close to winning our own division. We lost a game in which our opponent didn’t score a touchdown that year. At the end of the 3rd quarter of that game, he had 31 total yards passing.He was a bad college quarterback



Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 1:59 pm to
I am not trying to bash Etling but the best thing we can say about him is that he was not a disaster.

He could have been, but Canada called an offense designed to hide him.

Too many LSU fans think that means be is good.

We need someone that’s good enough that the coaches can call the entire offense at any point of the game without fear of the QB frickkng it up.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:05 pm to
Etling was criminally underrated while here.

In 2016 he led game-winning drives against Florida and Auburn. Orgeron shite his pants against Florida and the clock operators and refs stole that game vs Auburn. Etling was clutch the final drive of both of those games.

His 2017 season was right up there with 2013 as the best by an LSU QB in the last 10 years.

A large segment of the LSU fanbase is just dumb. Etling was plenty good enough to compete for SEC titles. The fact that he didn't win one is harly his fault.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20023 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:17 pm to
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No they don’t.


Yeah they do. It’s quite obvious you aren’t willing to accept this because I just read you are talking about an individual quarter of a game, I’ll take that as you refusing to see the big picture

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Guice ran for 276 in that game! Darrell Williams ran for over 100. Etling had 200 yards passing. 1 completion was a 63 yard pass to williams that traveled 5 yards in the air behind the LOS. Another was a 60 yard completion to Moreau in a complete busted coverage. He ran completely free with no defender within a 20 yard circle radious of him. The majority of high school quarterbacks in America can complete all 9 of the passes he completed in that game.


So one more time, what is your point? Was it ever even necessary to complete a pass to a WR? Because you just described an absolutely dominant effort by our offense.

Posted by Old
Metairie
Member since Dec 2016
2843 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:26 pm to
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Etling only had 2 interceptions in 13 games last season
How is she?
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3450 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 2:57 pm to
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In 2016 he led game-winning drives against Florida and Auburn.

In 2016 we lost to Florida and Auburn
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Orgeron shite his pants against Florida

We scored 10 total points in this game
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the clock operators and refs stole that game vs Auburn

When the fourth quarter started, Etling had 31 total passing yards. Our defense didn’t allow a TD in the entire game and we lost. We scored 13 total points. Clock operators? This is embarrasing
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A large segment of the LSU fanbase is just dumb

You just said a QB led 2 game winning drives in games LSU LOST
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:15 pm to
i find it amusing that people trash canada. the guy had an overeager coach sticking his nose in the gameplan but canada still managed to produce a competent offense that AT LEAST made d coordinators have to gameplan for it. then people go on to complain about the o line recruiting the last few years but never factor that in to their canada complaints
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12450 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:15 pm to
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Auburn 2016...


That game was highway robbery. What a swing of emotions that end game was
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:26 pm to
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Gotta be more efficient in the red zone than Etling was
this was definitely the biggest issue last year. however, i don't know how much to blame canada, orgeron or someone else. i suspect it was mostly orgeron
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:29 pm to
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He the reason they lost to Bama
oh good grief. what about all the other teams that don't have etling and lose to bama? get out of here with this crap
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:30 pm to
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Etling was not capable of making the plays needed to win games
this is a misleading statement. someone has already pointed out that in crucial games, he wasn't even being asked to so we can't say for sure he couldn't
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:33 pm to
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Obviously the receivers did their part at stopping drives or dropping TD passes as well.
begrudgingly acknowledging some truth and then still complaining about etling

let's face it, o line and wr play has been underwhelming. it looks like this year will be more of the same if reports are even close to accurate
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:35 pm to
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Breaking off routes
this is what i don't understand. the roster has had respectable wr's but those guys REALLY struggle at getting open and drop too many. but etling is the one who sucked.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:40 pm to
You would think Etling was the worst qb ever listening to some of you

Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2458 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 3:48 pm to
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Bottom line is he was serviceable enough to win 10-11 games last year for sure with any decent receivers and a running game that included a healthy Guice all year.


Not even close. He couldn't throw accurately enough for us to have a middle passing game so we had to abandon the middle of the field as well as the intermediate distance routes. How many posts or corner routes did we even run, much less complete? Almost none, because he couldn't throw them.
Bottom line our offense was severely limited by not having this part of the passing game available. That's why the stats are so good. When you only throw to RBs or short TEs throws with the occasional deep ball to back people off, you aren't going to have many interceptions but you aren't going to have much reliable productivity either. That was our problem in a nutshell.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 8/19/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Etling was plenty good enough to compete for SEC titles.


If u believe this u r watching college football for the band.
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