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Would you fire an employee purposely clocking in five minutes early?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:05 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:05 am
How big of a deal is this in the working world when someone commits time theft? What would you do as an employer?
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:06 am to wazoo11
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clocking in fire
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:06 am to wazoo11
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How big of a deal is this in the working world when someone commits time theft? What would you do as an employer?
what if that person had begun working? and/or clocked out 5 minutes early to balance?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:07 am to wazoo11
I hate to hear you lost your job.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:07 am to wazoo11
Personally IDGAF. Just be happy he's there early.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:07 am to wazoo11
You’re gonna punish a worker for being early?
Sounds like a good way to encourage tardiness.
Sounds like a good way to encourage tardiness.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am to fr33manator
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Sounds like a good way to encourage
resentment..
You charge them for coffee too ?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:08 am to wazoo11
I have a real job where we don't have to "clock in" so I don't know. If you get your work done who cares if they get to the office at 7 or 9.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:09 am to wazoo11
Is he actually there to work and clock in?
Fudging your time is certainly a fireable offense.
Fudging your time is certainly a fireable offense.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:09 am to wazoo11
Time based pay is usually set up on quarter of an hour and you need to be clocked in for 8 of the 15 to get paid for it. Depends on how the pay is calculated. Is it done in those increments or is it a total of minutes per day? And the work setting matters. 5 minutes early at a plant or something similar where you aren’t actually working yet and still have to walk to your station is nothing. 5 minutes in an office environment where you clock in at your computer is another story. If they’re getting overtime and are habitually gaming the system by clocking in just early and late enough to get a half hour OT every day then you might talk to them about it but not fire them without doing that first.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:09 am to wazoo11
he’s getting there early. That should be rewarded. Tell him to leave a bit early.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:10 am to wazoo11
And how much more money does 5 minutes early per shift equal? Compare this to the experience and skills of the worker. What will it cost to replace that worker?
I worked as an RN in many hospitals and we couldn’t clock in 5 minutes early. Of all things to be concerned about when coming to work to care for critically ill patients!!! So glad to be retired!!!
ETA: so he clocks in 5 minutes early. My question would be, how much of that 5 minutes does it take for him to get to his work area and set up for work. It can take 5 minutes for a computer to warm up and be ready. Maybe he is doing you a favor and really working the full shift, instead of wasting that first 5 minutes getting set up. You should consider yourself lucky.
I worked as an RN in many hospitals and we couldn’t clock in 5 minutes early. Of all things to be concerned about when coming to work to care for critically ill patients!!! So glad to be retired!!!
ETA: so he clocks in 5 minutes early. My question would be, how much of that 5 minutes does it take for him to get to his work area and set up for work. It can take 5 minutes for a computer to warm up and be ready. Maybe he is doing you a favor and really working the full shift, instead of wasting that first 5 minutes getting set up. You should consider yourself lucky.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:10 am to wazoo11
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employee purposely clocking in five minutes early?
So you want to fire an employee for getting to work early?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:11 am to slackster
Yes.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:12 am to wazoo11
No.Speak with them.
i am salaried but have to report my hours. Just had to take a class that included the legal requirements and it said you're required to be there, even if you're not working, you must get paid
i am salaried but have to report my hours. Just had to take a class that included the legal requirements and it said you're required to be there, even if you're not working, you must get paid
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:12 am to wazoo11
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How big of a deal is this in the working world when someone commits time theft? What would you do as an employer?
Be happy he’s early and possibly let him off 5 minutes early. Don’t be a fricking dickfore.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 9:13 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:13 am to athenslife101
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even if you're not working, you must get paid
This is a relief
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:13 am to wazoo11
We're gonna need context here.... If we're talking a minimum wage type position and somebody is clocking in as soon as they arrive five minutes before their shift and getting to work you should be happy to pay that extra 50¢ they are costing you for having a dependable min wage employee.
If they are clocking in then going outside to smoke a cigarette until their shift starts you confront them and adjust their clock in times... That's what management is for.
If they are clocking in then going outside to smoke a cigarette until their shift starts you confront them and adjust their clock in times... That's what management is for.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:13 am to wazoo11
If they’re working in those 5 minutes, no. Just riding the clock, yes if it’s persistent
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:15 am to wazoo11
In that case, the only real issue would be whether or not the 25 minutes per week are causing him to get overtime.
Regardless, you talk to him before you fire him.
Regardless, you talk to him before you fire him.
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