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re: Nazis and Communists
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:42 pm to The Boat
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:42 pm to The Boat
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This is where libs try to tell us Fascism is a right wing creation.
Americans have a very different concept of the right/left political spectrum compared to most of the world and human history. This is because social conservatism, small government and captalism have become synonymous with right wing in this country. This is not traditionally what being on the "far right" entails.
Traditionally, the far right wing is populated by those who believe the government should regulate most or all aspects of the lives of a population under the premise that this makes people more uniform, harmonious and safer.
This post was edited on 8/4/18 at 1:43 pm
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Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Traditionally, the far right wing is populated by those who believe the government should regulate most or all aspects of the lives of a population under the premise that this makes people more uniform, harmonious and safer.
> tfw you realize the American Revolution was leftist in character
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:46 pm to HempHead
Correct, the concept a free republic is historically a very left wing ideology.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 1:49 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Correct, the concept a free republic is historically a very left wing ideology.
At least we started off as an arisocratic republic in all but name - a very old form of government that can reasonably be called 'Right'. Though revolting against a monarch is very leftist.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:01 pm to memphis tiger
One issue that's not often discussed is ethnicity.
We all know that Jews were a minority in Germany and they were extremely successful financially. That caused envy.
But what few realize is that long before WWII the Germans who lived in Russia were a minority that were extremely successful financially. The Russians hated them for that. There was ethnic animosity from way back.
We all know that Jews were a minority in Germany and they were extremely successful financially. That caused envy.
But what few realize is that long before WWII the Germans who lived in Russia were a minority that were extremely successful financially. The Russians hated them for that. There was ethnic animosity from way back.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Americans have a very different concept of the right/left political spectrum compared to most of the world and human history.
America is the only place where God still pays attention so our viewpoint is all that matters.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:06 pm to memphis tiger
Had little to do with ideology. Both the Germans and the Russians wanted to conquer Europe. Neither wanted to be conquered by the other. The Germans got beat back and the Russians moved in after the German collapse and snatched as much territory as possible. It's more cultural than economic.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:07 pm to The Boat
...what?
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Socialism, in principle, is not totalitarian.
Socialism yes, but Marxism is explicitly authoritarian. This difference led to the split between Marxists and Anarcho-Communists at the First International.
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he Nazi party supported private enterprise and business in certain sectors of society recognizing it as more efficient.
It was very few sectors. Nazi Germany had the second highest rate of state-ownership beyond the Soviet Union by 1939, if I recall correctly.
Part of the reason that people commonly associate authoritarians together is that there was an explicit push by the US to describe communism and fascism as similar during the Cold War.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:21 pm to memphis tiger
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Naziism and Communism are not very different ideologies both a variation of left wing socialist totalitarianism.
Nah, i dont agree with this at all, in theory or practice.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:40 pm to MrCarton
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Naziism and Communism are not very different ideologies both a variation of left wing socialist totalitarianism. Nah, i dont agree with this at all, in theory or practice.
Ayn Rand agrees with Memphis, not with you.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 2:41 pm to Zach
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Ayn Rand
Cool. She's wrong, but good to know.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:20 pm to TheFonz
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it allowed Germany to invade Poland without interference from the Russians
They invaded Poland together...
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:30 pm to Tiger Roux
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I have wondered about the hate Hitler had for communist as well.
Say what you will about Hitler, but remember....he killed Hitler.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 4:41 pm to Tiger Roux
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They were allies when the war started
They signed a non aggression pact. Not really allies, more like you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. Hitler broke the pact when he invaded Russia. Stalin took it personally.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:16 pm to Junky
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They invaded Poland together..
That what just a part of the deal; a means to an end. It was something Hitler was willing to allow to avoid a two front war. Finish off the French and British, then turn on the Soviets. Dumbass couldn’t pull it off, though.
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:18 pm to CoachChappy
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Butler crossed Stalin
Smedley?
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:18 pm to HempHead
quote:Most “Conservatives” are too ill-informed to know/grasp this fact.
the American Revolution was leftist in character
This post was edited on 8/4/18 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:19 pm to HempHead
quote:Would have been better if we had stayed with the original template.
At least we started off as an arisocratic republic in all but name - a very old form of government that can reasonably be called 'Right'.
This post was edited on 8/4/18 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 8/4/18 at 9:41 pm to AggieHank86
Hitler was paranoid about Russia and thought Stalin would stab him in the back. Stalin was paranoid about Hitler and thought Germany would stab him in the back. Basically you had two paranoid leaders playing chicken. Hitler blinked first.
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