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re: McMurphy accusing Urban Meyer of being aware of domestic abuse allegations in 2015
Posted on 8/2/18 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 8/2/18 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
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Yep
Here is how I stand
If Urban knew, and beleived that Smith was beating his wife and in anyway shape or form tried to help cover it up for the betterment of the football program I feel no pitty for him getting fired
If Urban didnt beleive Smith was beating his wife, and thought the legal process had played out with law enforcement, I wont hide behind the shitstain that is title IX and act like he should be fired for that
However, I ultimately also thinkg Urban is an absolute retard for lying about knowing in the first place
All of this.
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Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:12 pm to lsupride87
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I'm no lawyer but years and years of watching law and order tell me that is the definition of hearsay.
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Well that isnt the definition of hearsay
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information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
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If the 3rd party has direct knowledge, and cant substantiate it, it isnt hearsay
Neither of you understand what hearsay is. Kindly move on.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:22 pm to lsupride87
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But these people arent admitting that, they are trying to act like they truly give a shite about title IX
Urban and OSU have always been really scummy. To me, this is about Urban getting his and frick OSU.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:24 pm to MidnightVibe
quote:I posted the actual definition
Neither of you understand what hearsay is. Kindly move on.
But I couldnt in words tell you what the frick that means
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:40 pm to lsupride87
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I just find it odd people now seem to care and respect title ix so much
Title IX is fricking shite and always has been
Actual law enforcement was made aware. For me, that’s what I care about. If y’all want to act high and mighty and hang him on a title ix rule then so be it
Who is giving a damn about Title IX? I don't think anyone is. But the University HAS to comply by law. What is being said is Title IX is why Urban will likely be fired with cause, or at least will be forced to resign for less money than fired without cause.
And give me a break about law enforcement being informed, lol. You seem absolutely clueless about domestic abuse. Are you telling me domestic abuse is okay for men to commit as long as they are not arrested? Are you saying that allowing someone to continue to work for you that you know is breaking the law is okay as long as they are not arrested?
My point all along is that Smith is a scumbag, Urban knew he was, Urban kept him on his staff for years knowing he is a scumbag, then Urban lied about knowing he was a scumbag.
Keeping a known wife beater on your staff for years and then lying about knowing he was a wife beater, is grounds enough for me to hope he is fired.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:43 pm to baldona
quote:no
Are you telling me domestic abuse is okay for men to commit as long as they are not arrested?
quote:no
Are you saying that allowing someone to continue to work for you that you know is breaking the law is okay as long as they are not arrested?
But once again, tell us all how you know that urban and everybody else knew exactly what was going on
Me and displaced have asked you multiple times, and you never answer
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:44 pm to baldona
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What is being said is Title IX is why Urban will likely be fired with cause, or at least will be forced to resign for less money than fired without cause.
It looks like Title IX won't even apply here...
This will come down to a contract and appearances, and if Ohio State had any balls, they'd tell the McMurphy's out there to get fricked.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
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But once again, tell us all how you know that urban and everybody else knew exactly what was going on
He doesn't care. He's really mad about it and that's good enough, damn it.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:53 pm to baldona
quote:You forgot to include that Earle Bruce, Urban's 2nd daddy and grandpa to the husband/perp, and another OSU power-broker intimidated the women to drop the original charges way back when.
My point all along is that Smith is a scumbag, Urban knew he was, Urban kept him on his staff for years knowing he is a scumbag, then Urban lied about knowing he was a scumbag.
Keeping a known wife beater on your staff for years and then lying about knowing he was a wife beater, is grounds enough for me to hope he is fired
To think Urban didn't know any of this is ludicrous.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:57 pm to Crow Pie
From the other thread
This all seems pretty damn plausible in a case like this
We shall see soon
*Urban is looking at a 3-4 game suspension
*Many members of the University have known about both Zach and Courtney for quite some time
*They never acted on information because there was never any proof of guilt one way or the other
*Photos are from 2010 (prior to OSU) and there is no proof the harm was caused by him
*He and she are both drunks.
*She called 911 (66) times in 90 days.
*She got pulled over 3 times for DUI. On each time they let her off and escorted her home.
*Each time she began crying and stated Zach was chasing her and she was afraid. Each time Zach was at practice.
*911 actually stopped sending squads because they stopped finding her credible. They came numerous times with 911 verifying Zach was engaged in Ohio State activities.
*In Zach's and her court hearing the Powell police are testifying on his behalf.
*She has come to OSU practices numerous times drunk, chasing after Zach, threatened to blow people up and other various threats.
*She never worked and when divorced lived off of Zach's child support. When Zach was fired she realized she would lose income and freaked out. She reached out to anyone. She was asking 6-figures for her story.
*They decided to suspend Urban with pay to separate the media frenzy from the practices.
*Apparently there is no proof of anything. Just two crazy people who should have never been together.
This all seems pretty damn plausible in a case like this
We shall see soon
*Urban is looking at a 3-4 game suspension
*Many members of the University have known about both Zach and Courtney for quite some time
*They never acted on information because there was never any proof of guilt one way or the other
*Photos are from 2010 (prior to OSU) and there is no proof the harm was caused by him
*He and she are both drunks.
*She called 911 (66) times in 90 days.
*She got pulled over 3 times for DUI. On each time they let her off and escorted her home.
*Each time she began crying and stated Zach was chasing her and she was afraid. Each time Zach was at practice.
*911 actually stopped sending squads because they stopped finding her credible. They came numerous times with 911 verifying Zach was engaged in Ohio State activities.
*In Zach's and her court hearing the Powell police are testifying on his behalf.
*She has come to OSU practices numerous times drunk, chasing after Zach, threatened to blow people up and other various threats.
*She never worked and when divorced lived off of Zach's child support. When Zach was fired she realized she would lose income and freaked out. She reached out to anyone. She was asking 6-figures for her story.
*They decided to suspend Urban with pay to separate the media frenzy from the practices.
*Apparently there is no proof of anything. Just two crazy people who should have never been together.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 3:59 pm to lsupride87
Well this would be quite the development.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:03 pm to jlovel7
this is some dalsu shite
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:06 pm to lsupride87
HAHAHAH
HAHAHAHA
I really really hope all of that is true just to prove to the PC police how ridiculous their laws are. They love to pass judgement before any facts are out. If even 10% of that is true this woman is fit for a straight jacket.
This would be the perfect example of why title IX is absurd, do you have to report every rumor? Even if a person is acting crazy? Should you be required to determine if someone is crazy or reliable before you spread rumors and accusations about someone else’s personal life?
HAHAHAHA
I really really hope all of that is true just to prove to the PC police how ridiculous their laws are. They love to pass judgement before any facts are out. If even 10% of that is true this woman is fit for a straight jacket.
This would be the perfect example of why title IX is absurd, do you have to report every rumor? Even if a person is acting crazy? Should you be required to determine if someone is crazy or reliable before you spread rumors and accusations about someone else’s personal life?
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:09 pm to baldona
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Are you telling me domestic abuse is okay for men to commit as long as they are not arrested? Are you saying that allowing someone to continue to work for you that you know is breaking the law is okay as long as they are not arrested?
Are you saying people should take the law into their own hands? Or should we trust law enforcement to determine the truth. If nothing came of the investigation I would assume they gathered the facts and the man was innocent? What would you do, hire a private investigator? Or just fire him because of an accusation?
Your thoughts seem very reactionary and not well thought out
This post was edited on 8/2/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:18 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Are you saying people should take the law into their own hands? Or should we trust law enforcement to determine the truth
What part of this do you understand that Ohio St as an institution has nothing to do with law enforcement? I never said that Smith should be put in jail. I never said he should or shouldn't be arrested.
Again, as an employer if an employee of mine is caught up in something like this it would be grounds for letting them go. Title IX is simply the legal means to do it.
I'm saying there is a long history of a disastrous relationship that Urban is covering up.
Of course Ms. Smith is a lunatic. Who ever assumed she wasn't is ignorant. A lot of these woman that stay with abusive men are crazy.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:19 pm to baldona
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Title IX is simply the legal means to do it.
No it isn't.
Stop repeating this because you clearly don't understand it.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:23 pm to 1999
If this is anywhere close to true, then why would Urban lie in the presser? It would be perfectly plausible explanation to say that Smith's ex wife and him had some personal issues that ended in divorce.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:24 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No it isn't.
Stop repeating this because you clearly don't understand it.
Are you an expert on it? Because I'm not. What I meant was that is the reason many are saying he may be fired. I stand corrected.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:25 pm to baldona
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Are you an expert on it?
No, but I do understand it. It will be up to Ohio State to determine Meyer's future there.
Posted on 8/2/18 at 4:27 pm to lsupride87
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From the other thread This all seems pretty damn plausible in a case like this We shall see soon
While it's still plausible, now that I've seen the way the post starts on Bucknuts, it seems like your typical "LSU is hiring Tom Herman - Done Deal" type of thread on the CCB.
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