re: McMurphy accusing Urban Meyer of being aware of domestic abuse allegations in 2015

TJ



How liberal of you.

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I never said any thing near that. In fact, I haven't commented on this situation at all. I asked a fairly simple question to see if you were capable of giving a straight answer.

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No you asked a vague nonsensical question that was designed to illicit a specific response that you think somehow proves a point.

You asked “is photographical evidence a rumor”?

First of all, a photograph by itself can’t be a rumor. It’s not even a valid question. That’s like asking can a banana be bipolar. The appropriate question is, “can the story that accompanies a photograph be a rumor”? The answer to that question is clearly yes.

The Webster definition of a rumor is “a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth”. So by definition a photograph can’t be a rumor because a photograph isn’t a story. A photograph is an image that is almost meaningless without an accompanying story.

For instance, if I send you a picture of a huge bruise on my leg and say “look at the crazy bruise I got from taking a fall while snowboarding”, that brings about a totally different response then saying “look at the bruise I got from my wife beating me”.

You aren’t as smart as you think you are.

Not nearly as much energy as the PC police put into it

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If y’all want to act high and mighty and hang him on a title ix rule then so be it

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Virtue signaling

It’s obvious that’s what these people are doing because they immediately equate not supporting bullshite title IX rules with being pro-domestic abuse

Is being pro-domestic abuse even a thing today? It’s kind of like calling someone a nazi. Not reporting something you heard is not equivalent to preferring that your coaches beat their wives. I’m pretty sure actual domestic abusers wouldn’t say domestic abuse is ok if you asked them.

I believe you

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an awful rule/law and should be considered unconstitutional

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This. And only this.

OSU still deserves the right to fire Urban and everyone call him a moron for not handling the situation better. But the government should never be able to require someone to report rumors.

You don’t need an ridiculous law like title IX to fire him. It’s just another over reach of power and invasion into people’s personal lives.

Has the question been asked yet of why McMurphy, an ESPN employee, has to write his stories on facbeook posts?

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But the government should never be able to require someone to report rumors.

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It sure is fun to see who loves them some Title IX.

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It sure is fun to see who loves them some Title IX.

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Yep

Here is how I stand

If Urban knew, and beleived that Smith was beating his wife and in anyway shape or form tried to help cover it up for the betterment of the football program I feel no pitty for him getting fired




If Urban didnt beleive Smith was beating his wife, and thought the legal process had played out with law enforcement, I wont hide behind the shitstain that is title IX and act like he should be fired for that





However, I ultimately also thinkg Urban is an absolute retard for lying about knowing in the first place

People just hear “should you have to report domestic abuse?” and say yes.

They don’t understand the conversation is much more nuanced than that. They don’t understand about the rabbit hole title IX goes down.

Again, everyone SHOULD report domestic abuse. We should engrain that thought into our society. Just like everyone should hold doors for people, pick up after themselves, and recycle. It’s human decency. You can and should be fired for not being a decent human. But there shouldn’t be a law saying what rumors you should and should not have to report.

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Actual law enforcement was made aware. For me, that’s what I care about. If y’all want to act high and mighty and hang him on a title ix rule then so be it

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For me, it's not about the fact that he never reported it. As you said, LE was notified and did nothing. If that's the case, Urban likely assumed nothing actually happened cuz he trusted LE to do their job.

But the thing is he lied about it. He covered up for the guy. Of course he will go down for that.

Not to mention rather or not the policy is good or not is irrelevant. The fact is, there is a policy set in place. Urban must follow that policy, or risk his job. Same thing as there are policies at your job that you just follow rather you like it or not. Just because the policy is lousy does not give you free reign to ignore it.