What's really at stake this year?

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You’ll get a bunch of false narratives but here is the truth- recruiting classes are much more a reflection of where you are going, not where you are.

So in December if we have 5 loses and we’re talking about the next guy then Louisiana will get raided. You’ll still get some diehard kids (stingley) but any kids on the fence aren’t coming here.

Our defense will be nasty so basically the future of our program, O’s job security, Allevas job security and possibly F Kings job security will all be determined by Steve Einsminger in 2018.

It’s easy to say give them time before you’re actually on the cusp of not going to a bowl. LSU fans haven’t been there in a while. It’ll get nasty if we go back.

ETA: But If his class begins to crumble and the losses pile up O may honestly be fired.

I’ve went on record several times saying give him 3 but I won’t stand by that if we go to the independence bowl. With that said I think he has an 8.5 million dollar buyout. They’re not going to commit 20 million dollars to buyouts.

Alleva is a joke.

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Seriously, no bs, how does Ed O earn some respect in the coaching community and lock down the state (right now he can't even lock down kids that went to HS on LSU's campus) without having a 10+ win season?

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I'm not sure that's really possible. He can keep his job with a 7-8 win season but he's not going to magically be a respected head coach without showing he can bring our program back to a place of prominence by taking a step forward this year. If he's able to do that, the recruits and the respect naturally will follow. Another middling 7-9 win effort and recruiting will be a real battle this offseason.

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Seriously, no bs, how does Ed O earn some respect in the coaching community and lock down the state

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Win...and keep winning at a rate equal to or better than the coach we fired. It's that simple.

Like all respect, it has to be earned. And the more he craves it and asks for it through his surrogates before earning it, the more people will call it out and creepy and disingenuous.

What I think is illustrative is that people continue to act like there's nothing he could do to be respected, lone before he's actually done anything worthy of that respect. Shouldn't we wait until he earns it...or is that too much to ask?

Whats at stake is keeping our place in the national and conference pecking order of besides a select few other schools we have a complete program. Talent, support, and resources are all there to have a contender.

This is the proving year for O, if he wins 10 games regardless that will be a success. If its 9 or 8 wins it just depends on who we beat and how we look. If we win 9 and upset somebody like a UGA or Bama but drop a game to a team we shouldnt lose to atleast it will show progress.

Only a handful of other schools where 3 second round picks and a third rounder constitutes an off year for Tigers moving on to the NFL level. Do I think a lot of the guys drafted last year out play there slots yeah but guys were not drafted as high, our recruiting class ranking was not as high and we lost out at the end on some major long time targets, and most importantly our true record and level of play seemed to go down even though we did get better as the year progressed.

New OC same QB questions and since Miles, we have the talent but our program's reputation will drop which will have lasting effects program wide. Last year still felt like sort of a grace period for O, no reasons now, his OC, handpicked QB, major D-1 transfers at key positions of need and multiple staff changes, now or never.

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What's really at stake this year?

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E . V . E . R . Y . - T . H . I . N . G .

Lots of irregular menstrual conditions on this board that for sure

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hahaha that's embarrassing

we have an idiot that eats cole slaw for a head coach

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What's really at stake this year?

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While I really think O will be back in 2019 as HC, I think this year is really going to set his trajectory at LSU. If he wins big, he'll go a long way to silencing his critics. If he loses, I doubt he gets fired, but he'll be essentially a lame duck coach going into 2019.

Re: recruiting, O was on a roll until this weekend. It was a huge misstep not to have a big event this weekend. Maybe Emery was headed to UGA all along, maybe he was on the fence and this visit there sealed it for him. Either way, LSU was caught at the plate looking and should have had something bigger planned.

Winning this season will go a long way for O's tenure here, and the recruiting class for 2019.

Having another 8-10 win season that continues the LSU identity crisis saga, and probably doesn't move the needle on getting new vision and leadership, and forces everyone into bad decisions that further create situations to continue in that very same morass.