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re: Sharp Objects

Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:26 pm to
I think I read an interview where Gillian Flynn said you won’t really find many physical clues of Amma being the killer. It’s all clues showing that Amma is unstable. Just another thing that shows everything was built up for the “shock” ending to get people talking.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:38 pm to
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There were also other things written on the girls fingers / knuckles. It was hard to make out but I thought I saw something that looked like "Sonic."


When you go to knuckle check and it says Sonic on their knuckles
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:43 pm to
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I’m also not on board with the “I don’t want to know what happened” people. I don’t watch shows and movies to make up my own stories of what may have happened. It’s a cop out to not have to tell a full story, and is eaten up by people who want to make everyone think they are super sophisticated.



It's pretty obvious what happened. Nature/nurture turned Amma into a psychopath. Being slowly poisoned and raised by an Munchausen by proxy mom will do that to you. What further explanation do you need? She's been a little psychopath for the entire series.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:48 pm to
I don't know about yall, but the Sharp Objects finale may have surpassed the finale of Six Feet Under for GOAT.

That closing scene/closing line and then sudden cut to credits with Led Zeppelin jamming was a masterpiece.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:52 pm to
It’s not very realistic that Amma just happened to be friends with at least two like-minded psychos in little ole Wind Gap.

I think everyone can admit the source material for this show is very flawed. I still found a lot of other things to like though and enjoyed the ride.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 2:54 pm to
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It’s not very realistic that Amma just happened to be friends with at least two like-minded psychos in little ole Wind Gap.

After listening to several of the crime podcasts that are out there, it's certainly realistic that this could happen in a small town like Wind Gap. There are crazy people everywhere.
Posted by mule74
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:06 pm to
I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I didn't really like this show. To me it was about right on par with season 2 of Westworld.

I thought it was way too slow. I don't mind slow when I can feel the tension building, but I never got that.

FWIW, my wife read the book and also didn't enjoy the show.

I enjoyed the last two episodes. I think this really should have been condensed into a 3 or 4 (tops) episode mini-series.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:15 pm to
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People can give you crap if they want, but these things are absolutely true.

I feel like this was an okay show. Then the ending was hit with the current trend of internet overreacting to everything, saying how incredible the ending was.



and the fact that if its on HBO, it cant suck. they crap diamonds according to the internet. and i guess for the most part they do, but its like its no longer possible to say that an HBO just isnt that good.

but like i say, its more of a knock on gillian flynn if the show was as accurate as everybody says.

just trying to think of the other HBO mini series'... The Night Of, Big Little Lies, maybe True Detective counts. it isnt even close to any of those.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:19 pm to
why would Camille keep taking the medicine? I know they said it was to prove what Adora was doing, but its not like she couldnt have taken it just once or twice and had it in her system. but no let me just keep taking it until im at the point of dying. having a mixture of rat poison/antifreeze in your sister and a little in you and giant blue bottles full of it wasnt enough?
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:28 pm to
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why would Camille keep taking the medicine? I know they said it was to prove what Adora was doing, but its not like she couldnt have taken it just once or twice and had it in her system. but no let me just keep taking it until im at the point of dying. having a mixture of rat poison/antifreeze in your sister and a little in you and giant blue bottles full of it wasnt enough?



she wanted enough of it in her system for the cops to know for certain it's why her sister died. Also, if she refused her mother, she'd go back to not loving her again and likely back to poisoning Amma.

She also didn't know it was antifreeze and rat poison. She just knew it was some kind of poison.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:30 pm to
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It’s not very realistic that Amma just happened to be friends with at least two like-minded psychos in little ole Wind Gap.



well it's not meant to be a true story

but psychopaths are manipulative. we don't know how she got them involved. Manipulated them into the first killing, and we don't know if they were in on the second or not as we only see Natalie under the bed dying.
Posted by Brinner
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 3:37 pm to
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why would Camille keep taking the medicine? I know they said it was to prove what Adora was doing, but its not like she couldnt have taken it just once or twice and had it in her system. but no let me just keep taking it until im at the point of dying. having a mixture of rat poison/antifreeze in your sister and a little in you and giant blue bottles full of it wasnt enough?


She was protecting Amma. You def didn't watch.
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:06 pm to
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I thought it was way too slow. I don't mind slow when I can feel the tension building, but I never got that. FWIW, my wife read the book and also didn't enjoy the show.


My wife and I listened to the book on a road trip a couple of years ago and thought it was good but kind of boring. I was wondering if the show would end up the same, we only watched the first 2 episodes and have been meaning to pick it back up.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:21 pm to
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well it's not meant to be a true story but psychopaths are manipulative. we don't know how she got them involved. Manipulated them into the first killing, and we don't know if they were in on the second or not as we only see Natalie under the bed dying.


See that’s the thing. Throughout the show, we are told Amma is this smart, very manipulative young lady. Then in the last minute or so, including credit scene, they quickly throw in the fact that Amma and her buddies are basically cliched horror movie psychopaths.

The credit scene, where Amma looks unhinged, felt like it wasn’t even part of the same show.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:27 pm to
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She was protecting Amma


It still didn’t make sense. She already knew Amma was in the middle of being poisoned. She could have just called Richard and told him. It would have been the same outcome.

Instead, she created a situation in which both of them were in danger, and needed luck to be saved. The only reason she survived was because her boss showed up, which Camille had no idea was going to happen,
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:31 pm to
I think it's a combo. She mentions earlier she wonders if she should have just let her mother take care of her earlier.

She's also pretty unstable herself and just banged an 18yr old out of self loathing. I think part of her wanted to die and was just giving in. She only really snaps out of it when she hears someone at the door.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:34 pm to
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See that’s the thing. Throughout the show, we are told Amma is this smart, very manipulative young lady. Then in the last minute or so, including credit scene, they quickly throw in the fact that Amma and her buddies are basically cliched horror movie psychopaths.



what about the last minute changes that?

not to be combative, but do you know much about other serial killers? HH Holmes, Bundy, Dennis Rader, Ed Kemper, etc....all were intelligent people who committed cliched horror movie type killings.

And all of them had "mom issues".

Amma's story and timeline makes total sense. She not only has inherited her mother's narcissistic/psychopathic qualities, but she's also been molded into someone that feeds on the attention of the women who care for her. This is why she killed the girls- her mom was taking care of them and she was jealous. Same for the final girl who sucked up to big sis.

And most psychopaths throughout history get more and more reckless in their killings as they continue to lose control. This is exactly what happened to Amma in the final scene.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 4:35 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 4:37 pm to
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It still didn’t make sense. She already knew Amma was in the middle of being poisoned. She could have just called Richard and told him. It would have been the same outcome.

Instead, she created a situation in which both of them were in danger, and needed luck to be saved. The only reason she survived was because her boss showed up, which Camille had no idea was going to happen,


she has been suicidal for a long time. As the poster above said, this was her way of "self harming" by allowing her mother to poison her, while also hopefully saving her sister.

And Richard already knew and did nothing. He's the reason she even knew about it in the first place.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 5:13 pm to
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she wanted enough of it in her system for the cops to know for certain it's why her sister die


You don't have to practically kill yourself to get it in your system. You're sisters already loaded with it and she's cooking it up in the kitchen like she's making cookies or something. When the cops came in they would hsbr easily found that.

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Also, if she refused her mother, she'd go back to not loving her again and likely back to poisoning Amma.


Well then call the cops when you're still in your freaking right mind. Her way of going about it was idiotic.

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She also didn't know it was antifreeze and rat poison. She just knew it was some kind of poison.



ok well let me rephrase that to poison, not rat poison. Makes no difference.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 8/27/18 at 5:18 pm to
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She was protecting Amma. You def didn't watch


In an extremely dumb way. Hey let me take this poison to where it almost kills me and I'm not able to function or protect my sister if I truly needed too. Instead of let me take some, call the cops, show that I'm drugged, my sisters loaded and my mom is making it in the kitchen.
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