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re: Sharp Objects
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:08 am to JBeam
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:08 am to JBeam
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Which is why the discovery of Amma's behavior will probably send Camille down a dark spiral or even drive her to kill herself.
in the book, she goes to live with Vickery and they basically have to "re-raise" her as parents
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Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:18 am to Cap Crunch
quote:I know the folks over on reddit called them the "rollerskate girls" or whatever.
I didn't know they had names
Also, this scene from episode 7 keeps replaying in my mind. Especially since we have all the pieces to the puzzle now.
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It’s crystallized neatly in a small scene at the end of “Falling.” Chief Vickery tells Amma’s two friends to be careful and watch out because a drunk driver could come careening down the highway and accidentally hurt or kill them. Vickery automatically refers to the hypothetical driver as a man, and is quickly corrected by the girls. “Word of advice, keep your eyes open. Some drunk comes flying down this road, he’ll hit ya before he sees ya,” he tells them. “Or she, don’t be sexist, chief,” one of Amma’s friends responds.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:20 am to Salmon
Eliza Scanlen better be nominated for best supporting actress award.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:37 am to EarthwormJim
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The other sheriff quite obviously had a relationship with Adora.
Well according to the author of the book, they didn't. So yea.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:40 am to JBeam
Scanlen definitely deserves a nomination. Plus she will grow into a pretty hot star, imo
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:45 am to BlacknGold
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yall are missing Camille's entire character. she wanted to die.
But she wanted to save her sister. The point I'm making isn't whether she wanted to live or not, it's about her way of going about saving Amma. If that's your main concern, do my go about it in an extremely dumb way and putting her at risk in the process.
I definitely think adora add wouldnt get charged for the murder of the two dead girls, but I can easily see how people think she would.
I love that the defenders of the show can in no way admit that camille could have went about getting adora arrested in a little better way.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:49 am to VOR
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Scanlen definitely deserves a nomination.
It'll be interesting to see what she does next.
She did very well next to Amy Adams.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:52 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I love that the defenders of the show can in no way admit that camille could have went about getting adora arrested in a little better way.
I mean, you’re the poster who went into watching this show loathing Gone Girl and Flynn as well. It doesn’t come as a surprise that you hate a show by the same author with a lot of the same characteristics.
No more than it should shock you that people who enjoyed Flynn’s books and Gone Girl as a movie probably enjoyed this. And are willing to defend some of your criticisms.
No one is saying you have to love either, but let’s not act like you’re above some bias here.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:59 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I love that the defenders of the show can in no way admit that camille could have went about getting adora arrested in a little better way.
of course she could have
but you are ignoring how completely fricked up Camille was, in that she wanted to die, and what better way to die than to die the same way the last person that she really loved died while, in her mind, protecting her other sister
it would have been some type of fricked up closure for her
you are acting as if the show didn't show you that Camille was completely fricked up emotionally and are trying to push that she should have went this completely rational way when it would not have fit her character at all
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:03 am to BluegrassBelle
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I mean, you’re the poster who went into watching this show loathing Gone Girl and Flynn as well. It doesn’t come as a surprise that you hate a show by the same author with a lot of the same characteristics.
No more than it should shock you that people who enjoyed Flynn’s books and Gone Girl as a movie probably enjoyed this. And are willing to defend some of your criticisms.
Yea none has shocked or surprised me. I have a lot of minor complaints that I can see why it wouldnt bother anybody, especially a Flynn fan. I just think Camille's decision making in the end was extremely clumsy/non logical/dumb way of going about saving her sister. People not admitting to that at all does surprise me though.
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No one is saying you have to love either, but let’s not act like you’re above some bias here.
No I'm definitely not lol
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:04 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:It's really besides the point. You want Camille to act in a rational manner. When it's clear that she isn't supposed to be a completely rational individual in this book/miniseries.
I love that the defenders of the show can in no way admit that camille could have went about getting adora arrested in a little better way.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:05 am to BluegrassBelle
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I mean, you’re the poster who went into watching this show loathing Gone Girl and Flynn as well. It doesn’t come as a surprise that you hate a show by the same author with a lot of the same characteristics.
No more than it should shock you that people who enjoyed Flynn’s books and Gone Girl as a movie probably enjoyed this. And are willing to defend some of your criticisms.
No one is saying you have to love either, but let’s not act like you’re above some bias here.
Spot on.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:08 am to JBeam
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It's really besides the point. You want Camille to act in a rational manner. When it's clear that she isn't supposed to be a completely rational individual in this book/miniseries.
Fair enough. My bias has gotten in the way more than I can ever remember it being for a show.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:24 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I just think Camille's decision making in the end was extremely clumsy/non logical/dumb way of going about saving her sister. People not admitting to that at all does surprise me though.
I think had they not established her guilt over Marian dying and that she’s into extreme self-harm then it’d be a stretch. Or that she’s also an alcoholic with extreme psychosis that would lead her to not think rationally.
I think she initially underestimated how debilitating the poison would be for her as well. She had planned to reach Richard/Kansas City but she was surprised that she could barely walk under the influence and that Amma could (who we later find out likely built up a dosing tolerance). The miscalculation may have lead to her just agreeing to succumb for the sake of Amma. She clearly didn’t value her life with her risky behavior anyway.
Like they told KC when he went to the facility she was in with her roommate that killed herself, their patients typically suffer from extreme psychosis but also are heavy into self-harm.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:37 am to BluegrassBelle
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I just think Camille's decision making in the end was extremely clumsy/non logical/dumb way of going about saving her sister. People not admitting to that at all does surprise me though.
What exactly is it about the person that made herself look like a freaking graffiti wall of cuts that would make her act rationally and logically when it comes to the woman that made her the way she is?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:05 pm to JBeam
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The last credit scene revealed Amma as "the woman in white". So what are you talking about?
I’m talking about showing her committing the crimes and the look on her face. It didn’t fit the rest of the show, and was only put in the way it was to “shock” viewers so they could then get on the internet and say how amazing it was.
Everyone is saying Camille wanted to die, and she wasn’t a rational person, and she was trying to save Amma. The point is, of any of the options she could have chosen, she basically picked the worst one.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:05 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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Her way of going about it was idiotic.
so was carving herself up. You're missing the point- she is a depressed, self loathing, likely suicidal character
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ok well let me rephrase that to poison, not rat poison. Makes no difference.
context is important. Thinking she may be poisoned or being over dosed by her mom through, idk, a cocktial of drugs is one thing. Knowingly taking rat poison is another. It makes all the difference.
But all in all, you're missing the point that Camille was supposed to make these bad decisions. She has severe mental issues. Not once in this show has she really made a great decision.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:07 pm to landrywasbeast30
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I’m talking about showing her committing the crimes and the look on her face. It didn’t fit the rest of the show
dude, she seemed like a little psychopath the entire show. She said so many fricked up things to people, always had this look in her eye...then she;d change on a dime when around her mother. Psychopathic traits. They were obvious the entire series.
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The point is, of any of the options she could have chosen, she basically picked the worst one.
She picked the worst options the entire show. Crippling alcoholism, sleeping with the detective, cutting words into herself, moving in with her mother, sleeping with John, etc etc....her entire character and the way she fits into the show is entirely predicated on her making bad decisions. It's the reason people feel empathy for her. She has been through hell in her life, which has resulted in many bad decisions. She was never going to be the hero in the end.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:11 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I think she initially underestimated how debilitating the poison would be for her as well. She had planned to reach Richard/Kansas City but she was surprised that she could barely walk under the influence and that Amma could (who we later find out likely built up a dosing tolerance). The miscalculation may have lead to her just agreeing to succumb for the sake of Amma. She clearly didn’t value her life with her risky behavior anyway.
very good point and obvious on the rewatch.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 1:32 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:It was Amma's way of releasing her anger. Her entire life is structured to make sure Adora thought that she was the helpless daughter that needed attention. Also, G.Flynn has openly said that she doesn't put "shock value" items into her books, movies or tv series without it having some kind of meaning.
I’m talking about showing her committing the crimes and the look on her face. It didn’t fit the rest of the show, and was only put in the way it was to “shock” viewers so they could then get on the internet and say how amazing it was.
I'm typically not a fan of scenes after the credits roll. But this series did it perfectly and answered a lot of questions that we would have missed. It sounds like you missed a great deal of that.
quote:She picked the one option that would get the point across and wouldn't be easy for Adora & Alan to cover up. I swear it's like some of you didn't watch the other seven episodes of this series or pay attention to any of the symbolism used.
Everyone is saying Camille wanted to die, and she wasn’t a rational person, and she was trying to save Amma. The point is, of any of the options she could have chosen, she basically picked the worst one.
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