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How tough a task is the second part of Infinity War going to be?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:31 am
Think about all the things it will have to pull off:
-First, just the job alone of following the act of the first part of IW. The movie's been one of the most critically and publically acclaimed movies in the history of superhero films.
-Then factor in that this has to be THE pivotal plot point of the MCU to this date and maybe overall. Fiege has pretty clearly eluded that this will be the end of this era of the Avengers (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, etc.) and the beginning of a new chapter. They have to have those orginal characters have a final sendoff that's big and meaningful, but also a beginning to the new characters that's as big and meaningful as the original Avengers movie was.
-Thanos also has to have a satisfying wrap-up to his arc, which has been building for 6 years.
They have to bring back those wiped out in tSnap and take down Thanos in a way that gives sufficient closure to both Thanos and the original Avengers, but gives a compelling beginning to the new guard.
Plus, if it bombs (which I don't expect it too), it will diminish the outstanding feat that was IW.
It might be the tallest order the MCU has taken on, which is saying something, and I have no idea how they're going to do it.
I do trust the studio and the Russo brothers, though, and I'm damn sure excited to see what they do.
Anyone else feel this way?
-First, just the job alone of following the act of the first part of IW. The movie's been one of the most critically and publically acclaimed movies in the history of superhero films.
-Then factor in that this has to be THE pivotal plot point of the MCU to this date and maybe overall. Fiege has pretty clearly eluded that this will be the end of this era of the Avengers (Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk, etc.) and the beginning of a new chapter. They have to have those orginal characters have a final sendoff that's big and meaningful, but also a beginning to the new characters that's as big and meaningful as the original Avengers movie was.
-Thanos also has to have a satisfying wrap-up to his arc, which has been building for 6 years.
They have to bring back those wiped out in tSnap and take down Thanos in a way that gives sufficient closure to both Thanos and the original Avengers, but gives a compelling beginning to the new guard.
Plus, if it bombs (which I don't expect it too), it will diminish the outstanding feat that was IW.
It might be the tallest order the MCU has taken on, which is saying something, and I have no idea how they're going to do it.
I do trust the studio and the Russo brothers, though, and I'm damn sure excited to see what they do.
Anyone else feel this way?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:36 am to BranchDawg
Unlike Star Wars and TLJ, they probably already had a plan for all of this before IW started productiion.
This post was edited on 7/5/18 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:36 am to BranchDawg
I actually think it will be the easiest Marvel movie to make to date.
The first one was the challenge and people bought into it. The second part of the story is obvious if you paid attention to what happened to Thanos when he snapped his finger.
All they need to do is finish the story. Tell it. Call it a day.
The first one was the challenge and people bought into it. The second part of the story is obvious if you paid attention to what happened to Thanos when he snapped his finger.
All they need to do is finish the story. Tell it. Call it a day.
This post was edited on 7/5/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:41 am to BranchDawg
I wonder if Thanos gets some kind of redemption in the end? He doesn't do the things he does out of pure evil like most villians. Does Hulk play a pivotal part?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:42 am to BranchDawg
I imagine ant man and definitely captain marvel will help them set it up
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:47 am to BranchDawg
Once Kathleen Kennedy swaps franchises with Kevin Feige, we'll know more about IW2.
Expect Thanos to toss the Infinity Gauntlet over his shoulder, Black Widow to inexplicably obtain flying powers, and Hawkeye to milk the Hulk.
Expect Thanos to toss the Infinity Gauntlet over his shoulder, Black Widow to inexplicably obtain flying powers, and Hawkeye to milk the Hulk.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:52 am to BranchDawg
It will be hard to follow up for sure. I hope it’s better than Dark Knight Rises. Maybe that’s the brilliance of TLJ, set the bar really low so the last movie doesn’t ruin it.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 9:09 am to BranchDawg
After tSnap, there is a lot more screen time for characters so that will make things much more easy
Posted on 7/5/18 at 9:14 am to BranchDawg
I have confidence that they will get it right but it wont be easy. The first IW did everything on such a grand scale.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 9:22 am to BranchDawg
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Thanos also has to have a satisfying wrap-up to his arc, which has been building for 6 years.
Darkseid comes out of nowhere, and kills thanos with sub zeros mk 1 fatality.
You realise marvel and dc have merged.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 9:48 am to BranchDawg
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Fiege has pretty clearly eluded that
*alluded
Posted on 7/5/18 at 12:40 pm to BranchDawg
The thing about good writing over time is that the story starts to tell itself. It becomes a part of the story teller and you begin to feel what storytelling decisions are right and which deviatetoo far from the soul of what has come before.
In movies, you have the roles of story teller via the screenplay and the subsequent visual storytelling that has to be shown through good directing, acting, score, etc. I think the longevity of the franchise has created a stasis for good storytelling to continue through to this particular conclusion of the universe. I’m not so worried about what IW2 will bring in terms of quality wrap up and closure as I am what the next Avengers movie after that will open up with.
In movies, you have the roles of story teller via the screenplay and the subsequent visual storytelling that has to be shown through good directing, acting, score, etc. I think the longevity of the franchise has created a stasis for good storytelling to continue through to this particular conclusion of the universe. I’m not so worried about what IW2 will bring in terms of quality wrap up and closure as I am what the next Avengers movie after that will open up with.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 1:03 pm to BranchDawg
quote:
It might be the tallest order the MCU has taken on, which is saying something, and I have no idea how they're going to do it.
I do trust the studio and the Russo brothers, though, and I'm damn sure excited to see what they do.
Anyone else feel this way?
Nope.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 1:35 pm to BranchDawg
It will make a billion dollars no matter what they do. Seems pretty easy to me
Posted on 7/5/18 at 1:57 pm to BranchDawg
Haven't they already filmed it?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:47 pm to BranchDawg
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Think about all the things it will have to pull off:
It has a few points to tie up that, to me at least, have fairly obvious endings.
1. Cap has to die. He's been trying to commit suicide since before becoming a super soldier. He'll die holding off Thanos in a one on one battle so that Tony and the others can escape to do... whatever the final step is. Bonus points if they go back in time and Cap gets Mjolnir and is deemed worthy to wield it, as was teased in AoU. Cap, shield in one hand, hammer in the other, in a fight to the death with Thanos. RotK arrival of the Rohirrim level feels.
2. Hulk/Banner becomes Professor Hulk. A subplot of any movie Hulk has been in is the power struggle between the two. This can only end in Professor Hulk or World Breaker Hulk, and I don't think they have the stones to completely eliminate Bruce Banner.
3. Tony saves the universe. Its Tony Stark's MCU, and he has to save it. Fully foreshadowed in IW by Dr Strange. He doesn't have to die. Just win and retire.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:25 pm to BranchDawg
Not very hard.
All you need to do is figure out a contrived way to bring back everyone who died at the end of Infinity War (doesn't matter how because most of us will lap it up anyway) and kill off one or two of the "main" Avengers permanently for emotional effect.
BOOM!
Movie.
All you need to do is figure out a contrived way to bring back everyone who died at the end of Infinity War (doesn't matter how because most of us will lap it up anyway) and kill off one or two of the "main" Avengers permanently for emotional effect.
BOOM!
Movie.
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