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re: Truck driver shortage getting worse, potentially will increase consumer prices

Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55521 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:55 pm to
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you'd have to be a sucker or desperate



Lots of folks are desperate and think that 60k is nothing to sneeze at, you know.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39309 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:56 pm to
The idea of spending 8-10 hours on the road 5 days a week pulling a 50 ft truck and trailer through big city traffic isn't really appealing to me.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140979 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:56 pm to
Wrong thread
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:59 pm to
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Lots of folks are desperate and think that 60k is nothing to sneeze at,

my point was that all this 'opportunity' is less than genuine

that's a grueling life (if you want to get towards those higher 80-ish numbers) and no long term security
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140979 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:00 pm to
No long term security?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28293 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:03 pm to
This aint Germany.
If anybody wants a driverless truck in the U.S., they better buy a leer jet also, because they will be flying all over the country, to all the shops where their truck is broke down, with some minor computer fault.

It will be towed to a shop, and on a waiting list to be computer diagnosed.

When they start having driverless trucks, I will be going into the big truck wrecker business! Cha Ching!
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23885 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:03 pm to
I think tariffs and trade wars will have a more direct effect than driver shortages.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12656 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:04 pm to
Self driving trucks will be alright for ordinary freight, but some freight needs to be unloaded by the driver. One example would be pole deliveries for electric utilities. Those drivers deliver the poles and then use a mobile loader/unloader to unload and sort the poles by sizes.

Maybe it's time for the railroad to make a big comeback.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:08 pm to
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No long term security?

driverless is going to be very, very tough to beat in the long term and that long-term probably will probably be inside of the career span of many folks entering the job market now

there'll still be some need for human drivers but the first ones to be deemed expendable would be the ones they're "lowering standards" for to recruit now
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17309 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:08 pm to
Seems to be no shortages every time I get on an interstate. Especially no shortages of the ones that drive side-by-side for an hour due to going 1mph different speeds.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:16 pm to
If they could somehow merge truck driving with video games.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28293 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:24 pm to
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Self driving trucks will be alright for ordinary freight, but some freight needs to be unloaded by the driver. One example would be pole deliveries for electric utilities. Those drivers deliver the poles and then use a mobile loader/unloader to unload and sort the poles by sizes. Maybe it's time for the railroad to make a big comeback.


Self driving trucks won't be OK for anything, that's more than 200 miles.


I am a truck owner. These trucks have minor problems all of the time that shut them down. Even brand new ones.


A good driver corrects computer faults and problems on the side of the road, and keeps on trucking.

With a driverless truck, a service truck will be coming out, for a 300 buck call.


Yeah, about that railroad thing.


you gonna re- build all of your stores right beside a track? Or build lots of new tracks?


That won't be fricked up at all.

Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10688 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Maybe it's time for the railroad to make a big comeback.


They already are. The average freight train takes 200 trucks off the road. The great irony of seeing trailers on top of flat cars. Trucking is not as easy you many people think it is. They pay has been low and hasn't risen as much as inflation. That's why there is a shortage. Most truckers these days are real assholes on the road in my opinion so maybe better pay will bring about a better class of drivers.

Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28293 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

The average freight train takes 200 trucks off the road.


Not really, it just concentrates more trucks around hub areas, instead of them being on the open highway, where trucks are not really a problem.

Freight still has to be delivered to it's final destination by truck.
Posted by Cornbeef
Ocean Springs
Member since Aug 2009
357 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:43 pm to
Not to mention all the little stuff drivers do that ppl don't think about. Loading/unloading, fueling up, adjusting tandems, load locks etc. How is no driver making any of that easier?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28293 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:53 pm to
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Not to mention all the little stuff drivers do that ppl don't think about. Loading/unloading, fueling up, adjusting tandems, load locks etc. How is no driver making any of that easier?


I get a chuckle every time I read a thread like this.
It's just comments from people who don't know much about the subject.

Hell.. I wish any of it were true.
It would all lead to me making more money, in an easier way.

Yeah, ship more stuff by train, I will earn more money, making shorter trips, from the rail yard to the store.


Driverless trucks? I will get rich towing them into the shops.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13596 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:57 pm to
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Why join a profession that literally won’t exist for humans in like 5-10 years




Maybe in controlled environments but I’m having a hard time seeing any “last mile” type trucks being 100% autonomous in 10 years. Picture a robot driving a truck in downtown Jackson making deliveries
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

Self driving trucks will be here in less than 10 years


I've been in the industry since 1999. We are literally decades from self driving trucks taking over. Take a trucking trip from Boston to Seattle across I-90 during the winter with all that snow, ice, chaining to get over mountain passes, fueling, traffic, backing into the dock, etc and you'll see for yourself that we're way further than 10 years away.

You probably thought we'd have flying cars by now too after you watched Back to the Future II.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140979 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:04 pm to
When do you see semis being driverless?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30066 posts
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:07 pm to
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hen do you see semis being driverless?


It’s probably coming soon but they will still need someone in the truck for a good many years. No way they just open it up for purely autonomous trucks for another 20+ years. Too much liability.
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