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re: It’s been interesting talking to OSU fans about Heimlich

Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:47 pm to
Dude was convicted when he was 15.

I mean. I get that the crime is a bad crime although exactly what he did seems a shade up in the air..............but.......what do we want? For him to put a bullet in his brain?

Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6879 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:48 pm to


Shame on OSU for protecting him, but hopefully MLB teams will follow the way of the Rangers
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14078 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:48 pm to
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Dude was convicted when he was 15.


Didn’t he plead guilty? That different than being convicted.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1207 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:48 pm to
If LSU had put themselves in this situation I would be done with them. Not a dime of my money will go to you. Will not put my kids there won’t support the teams. That’s really all you can do which isn’t much but that’s the only leverage you have is if the school is scared this will affect their money.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:51 pm to
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Didn’t he plead guilty? That different than being convicted.

True.

And, near as I can tell, the incidents occurred mostly when he was 14.

I mean, yeah. You sure don't want your 14 year old doing this shite.

But, the mob is just as shade scary here.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20587 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

1. his brother doesn’t have anything to do with him as has been stated.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything by itself. I've seen estranged families before.
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2. How was it discovered he did this? Y’all been focusing on the act and not how it was discovered. The evidence suggest that this wasn’t even a question as to innocence. 6y/o don’t volunteer molestation.
This is another matter entirely, but depending on what evidence there is (I don't know it), it can also be iffy.
Surely there is evidence of violation, I imagine. But was there DNA tying him to it, or was she just physically injured?

Regardless, I go back to the original point, that if he was innocent, he never, ever would have pled guilty.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63577 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:53 pm to
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what do we want?


For his life to not be one ounce better than his niece's. Hopefully the story is kept alive enough that no MLB team wants that poison and he has to go be a bank teller or something.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1207 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:53 pm to
It’s the school bro. They handled it poorly. They didnt suspend him. They supported him and gave him a personal leave of absence like he was the one going through a difficult time. They also publicly shamed the Rangers for not taking him and called them hypocrites for accepting other guys with drug problems and domestic abuse problems and not this kid who raped a 4/6 year old child.
Where is the empathy for the victim? They basically treated him like he was the victim.

No one wants him to not have an opportunity to get an education but he is being victimized by the school so that he can gain whatever sympathy he can so he can get drafted. The school kept him bc he had had a hand in their bottom line of selling tickets and winning games. It’s patjetic bro the whole thing.
Posted by Sull
Benton, LA
Member since Aug 2006
3326 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:54 pm to
What if he played for LSU? It would be very embarrassing and frustrating to say the least.
The amount of negative publicity OSU has got just this weekend is enormous.
What a black eye for a program.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26275 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:55 pm to
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just talking with them I now think he actually did it

He admitted to doing it, then took it back once his baseball career took of. Of course he fricking did it.

LINK

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Luke Heimlich—the Oregon State pitcher who in 2012 pleaded guilty to one felony charge of molesting, at 15, his six-year-old niece, who nevertheless claims innocence
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1207 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:56 pm to
Yep and that’s there fault they have no one to blame but themselves. They are docking student athletes for taking one too many a free lunch but they all good with offering a full ride to a guy that raped and ruined the life of a 4 year old little girl. No. Fuk that.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4623 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:56 pm to
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Hopefully the story is kept alive enough that no MLB team wants that poison and he has to go be a bank teller or something.


With the state of pro sports, he has a better chance of playing Major League Baseball than passing basic pre-employment screening at a bank.

In the words of Donald Trump....SAD!
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:57 pm to
The Rangers have already said they aren't drafting him at any point
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:58 pm to
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It’s the school bro. They handled it poorly. They didnt suspend him.
Why exactly would the school suspend someone in 2017 for something that occurred in 2010-2011 and was adjudicated in 2012?

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They supported him and gave him a personal leave of absence like he was the one going through a difficult time.
Um........he wasn't?

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They also publicly shamed the Rangers for not taking him and called them hypocrites for accepting other guys with drug problems and domestic abuse problems and not this kid who raped a 4/6 year old child.
I dunno. I think that if you would draft a person who AS AN ADULT beat women........you might should stop acting holier than thou about what some dude did when he was 14-15.

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No one wants him to not have an opportunity to get an education
Well of course you do. Moreover, even if he gets the education, you don't want him to be able to get a job. I mean.........it's absurd.

This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:59 pm to
Obviously no one thinks what he did was good. Everyone hopes who he molested is doing well and has no bad long term effects.

But let's not forget what else was happening, like his parents and other guiding figures failed him. Not like he was a complete adult. Often there is a correlation to someone who molests and was molested themselves. I'm sure we will never know of such stuff in this personal case. I do admit that 15 is borderline that you want to hold full agency on the individual.

It is safe to say he regrets it and will regret it for the rest of his life. Whatever motivated this action needs to be nipped in the bud. Our society is failing. We have been pushing women to adopt unnatural masculine traits for nearly 100 years. Men are being pushed to be anti-men. And we can't miss the new agenda of the pedophile shite being pushed. We are in unnatural times and the psyche of people are paying dearly for it.

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2017/06/luke_heimlich_sex_crime_surfac.html

Research shows that the vast majority of juveniles convicted of sex crimes do not reoffend in subsequent years. After about three years, the likelihood of reoffending is "very small," said psychologist Michael Caldwell, who lectures at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. At five years, the recidivism rate for another sex crime hovers at 2.75 percent, according to a study that Caldwell published in 2016.

Godspeed to you LSU in your next games. Wishing you all the best.
Posted by GirthBrooks62
The Booty House
Member since Oct 2017
1207 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:05 pm to
I really don’t get defending him or the school for what happened. If you are that dead set on not drawing a line on child molestation then so be it I won’t waste any of my time explaining to you why they should have kicked him off the team.
Posted by OStateBaller
Member since Jun 2018
38 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:06 pm to
As an OSU fan I'm not here to defend anything to do with the case, but I am here to enlighten many of you on your misunderstanding or ignorance regarding the legal proceedings.

Under Washington law all juvenile cases are sealed including sexual offenses. In addition, Washington law does not charge juveniles with felonies, instead they are adjudicated.

Luke DID not have to renew his sexual offender status in Oregon. The Benton County police department made a fatal accident when they did their annual sweep of checking if people re-registered and put Luke on the list. Putting Luke on the list unsealed the case and thus showed up on the background check. To repeat, he DID NOT have to re-register and as far as the law was concerned he had no prior criminal record.

Now for the University. When Luke was recruited and joined OSU, Pat Casey and Oregon State had ZERO clue of the incident as Luke DID NOT have to list any prior convictions on any forms.

As for the University "failing" to boot him? He is in good standing with law and as far as the law is concerned it never happened (its sealed). So, again how can you legally boot him when he is in good standing with both the law and the school?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96810 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:06 pm to
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He admitted to doing it, then took it back once his baseball career took of. Of course he fricking did it.
Once again, this isn’t correct, but you don’t care anyway
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96810 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:08 pm to
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He let his registration lapse.

I guess that's ok.
No, he actually didn’t

But like I said, you and most others don’t care
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6328 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:13 pm to
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So, again how can you legally boot him when he is in good standing with
Because he admitted to molesting a small child. Any other questions?
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