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This is for you considering your reading skills are not good.

The Oregon state police ACCIDENTALLY AND PAINSTAKINGLY thought he had to re-register when in fact HE DID NOT. Thus the case became unsealed and it showed on the background check. As of now for instance, it will NOT SHOW again as its SEALED.
When Abel is on, his stuff is absolutely ridiculous. It looks like you guys are facing the good side of him.
Don't get me wrong as more of a primary STEM school the student body has a lot of conservatives and/or closet-conservatives. But, the faculty and admin is overwhelmingly liberal as most colleges are. And, Oregon as a whole is pretty conservative despite what you might think or view from voting. Portland has the largest say in Oregon voting for democrats but it is a skewed population representative.
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Think about it when the crowds swell for an anti Trump rally and you have your starting pitcher thumbing through kitty porn and diddling his own niece.


You had me until the fake news at the end.
Anti-trump protests have happened. OSU even has a bias response unit where triggered kids can report one-sided biases to. There was chalked in front of dorms one time "Build the wall" and it got reported, erased, and university made a statement not to be offensive.

Protesting LH? You wouldn't get anyone to show up.
It's something to consider. Oregon State is pretty damn liberal especially the faculty. You have to wonder why the group that is the first to push back against sexual offenders, especially a WHITE MALE, didn't receive that push back. The story is not black and white.
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You are also a prime example of why as AD or President of that school I would not have allowed him to continue his playing career at Oregon State.


The AD actually really did want him gone upon the news, especially considering our AD prides himself on fighting sexual assault. Pat Casey is an extremely Catholic and religious man (went to and coached at George Fox) and thus is a very forgiving person. I can bet my bottom dollar Pat Casey lobbied hard for Luke to stay (maybe to the extent of him quitting if he didn't get to stay). And Pat as a deeply religious person coached and knew Luke for years to believe he was a good person. This is all unofficial but I based off all the interviews, rumors, vibes it is true.
That's an unfair question. A father is not a neutral objector and of course wants him punished eternally and hanged. That's what a judge and the law is for and it did so accordingly. Anything outside of that for publicly chastising is fair game though. But, as I mentioned the case has too much grey area. If it was black and white, i.e. if there was DNA evidence that he molested the girl a vast majority more would not support his playing (I say vast majority because there will always be some apologists for juvenile offenders).

True, but you are looking at the story from a black and white perspective. There is still a looming unknown as to his innocence. Even I'm still on the fence. I'll break it down one more time as to why I think the university and fans let him play.


-Luke passed the police lie detector test
-Maintained innocence before taking the plea and during his entire state appointed counselling/probation
-His psychologist/counselor he had to visit believes he's innocent.
-The mother who brought the charges didn't receive custody, which is RARE a mother doesn't receive custody. Though, his brother doesn't talk to him, which is one of the odd details.
-His lawyer even admits that taking the plea deal was the best option as it was a he said she said where he would NOT win. And instead it was the best option to just do counselling and have this case sealed for life (so he thought).
-The judge at the end of his adjudication basically said he will grow up to be a good man and do good things and if I remember right he basically received a standing ovation.
-The victim (present day) has stated she has no recollection or remembrance of any of the molestation.

-Studies back up that juvenile recidivism is extremely low where most studies show around 5-7% actually re offend.
-Many OSU fans are somewhat forgiving considering he was a juvenile (13-14 at the times of that acts)
-He has shown to be a good citizen to the community and to the team ever since being at OSU

I'm sure I'm missing more information, but that's the gist of it.
No, I was saying from a moral stand ground you have an argument, but you can't kick someone off a team for that reason. I mean you could but not without a lawsuit. The university could make something up I suppose to kick him off.
Things remained sealed in juvenile cases depending on different state laws. In the case of Luke they do not charge any juveniles with felony charges and instead use adjudication where the cases are sealed. But, its not unheard of as many states seal juvenile cases depending on crimes, etc.
You mean ones that were caught? Who knows. In the case of Luke it was an accident that it got unsealed and if it hadn't you wouldn't have known about it. So the answer is maybe more than you think.
I never asked you to explain WHY someone shouldn't be on the team. Subjection doesn't validate an argument for bounds of actually having grounds to remove them. He has violated no team or university rules. How many times do I have to explain? You have no argument outside of (albeit correct) moral standpoint.
The fact you tried to call me out why they couldn't and now you present me nothing is all I need to know.
Defending the right to job/baseball =/= defending his actions. Nice straw man argument.
Legally implies in violation of team or university rules.
Please tell me what he violated? Past crimes do not count in this case as he hadn't have to report it and it's sealed by law. I'll be waiting...
So you were dedicating 90% of your forum in outrage then as you are doing now? Yeah, didn't think so.
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That is exactly what you are doing...and by doing so, you condone his actions.


Not at all. This is about baseball and whether people with passed transgressions can play. And the answer is obviously a resounding yes based on the amount of athletes that have gone through the NCAA with equal or worse that have occurred WHILE attending. End of story.

You can shun him for the rest of his life but you are not above the law to say that he has not legally paid. So, this comes down to a matter of should he be allowed to play baseball? Well, that's not up to you to decide, but you can certainly have your own opinion about it.

You only care about the situation because you are playing against him and sadly the amount of virtue signalling on this forum is beyond absurd. I am done with this board and your ignorant mob mentality. This issue with Heimlich goes beyond baseball. I have given you all the information you need yet you still continue to add fake news to the story.

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Actually he failed to report out-of -state travel, which he was required to do as a registered sex offender. As a result an arrest warrant was issued and the newspapers did some investigating and the news media went wild with the story.


You are correct about what happened after the report by Oregon police, but you are dead wrong. Under Washington law he did not have to report out-of-state. I literally mentioned that and you can read about it. It was an error by the police and they even apologized.