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re: Where should the MCU go after Infinity Wars and Thanos? (Spoilers)
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:32 am to saintkenn
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:32 am to saintkenn
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As for this series, eventually these guys are going to be too old for their roles or ready to move on to other projects such as the rumor has been for Chris Evans playing Cap. With so many characters intertwined now, I don't see how reboots can take place until this storyline is completed. Even then, you're not going to replaced every character at the same time, so there's going to be some awkwardness seeing Starlord interact with a different person playing Tony Stark. Its a conundrum here. Maybe a complete separation from the comics in that the older heroes retire and bring on new fresh faces to play the roles, such as Miles Morales taking on the Spider-Man role for example.
Yeah...this is what I'm talking about. How does it get addressed?
Like you said, there are ways to bring in new heroes...Miles is a good example. Various guys have played as Cap, etc. But in the end, will that be as valuable as Tony stark and Steve Rogers...? I honestly don't know.
I really think everyone CAN be recast. Unlike my belief that you just can't recast Han Solo or Indiana Jones because Harrison Ford was essential in making those characters real for a generation of fans, all these heroes existed long before they were cast for the MCU. As incredibly as most have been cast, I think Marvel has shown they can get it done and I think they could recast and we'd move along with them.
That being said, the ONLY one I'd be worried about how it would take would be Stark. RDJ has personified that role so much so that it's kind of hard to see where he's acting and where he's just playing RDJ. After all...with him killing that role and Jon Favreau nailing it as the director in Iron Man, we almost certainly would not be having this discussion 10 years later.
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:38 am to GeauxTigerTM
My problem with Tony staying alive and becoming an elder-statesman is that his character has beaten the retired/not-retired thing to death. I don't think that it would be realistic for Tony to remain alive and not be Iron Man.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
I know a lot of people assume Bucky will take the Cap mantle but in the current movie verse he’s a wanted criminal. Only a handful of people seem to know otherwise he wouldn’t be hiding in wakanda.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:41 am to CenlaMikePA
(Handful of people)/2
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:46 am to Fewer Kilometers
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I don't think that it would be realistic for Tony to remain alive and not be Iron Man.
Plus, most people dislike IM3. Granted, there are plenty of reasons to dislike that movie, not the least of which was what they did with Mandarin...but partly because you barely got to see Tony AS Iron Man.
To paraphrase Jeff Goldblum's Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park, "Now, eventually you do plan to have Iron Man in your, in your Iron Man movie, right?"
Not sure people would love Tony if he never puts on the suit.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:46 am to VoxDawg
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Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:47 am to CenlaMikePA
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I know a lot of people assume Bucky will take the Cap mantle but in the current movie verse he’s a wanted criminal. Only a handful of people seem to know otherwise he wouldn’t be hiding in wakanda.
So is the current Cap as well as half the Avengers.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:50 am to OMLandshark
if they end up saving half of the universe, there may be some pardons handed out 
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:55 am to GeauxTigerTM
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FWIW, my preference is not for them to permanently kill off any heroes. And don't give me that "it has no real stakes then" thing either. Don't we all know that going in...really? Mostly, because of age and time invested, you'll be talking about killing off the most popular characters you've got right now save for Black Panther.
But...RDJ is going to be too old soon and many of the others may tire of playing the roles.
Personally, I'd love for them to go the James Bond route with all of them. I really think Marvel has cracked the code on this entire enterprise. they've gotten that people are not turned off by long form stories and there's no reason to restrict these heroes to trilogies and then reboot/recast. You CAN simply keep the story going, just as you do with new writers for the comics and new artists to draw them. Hell...they've ALREADY done it between IM and IM2 with Rhodie. I minor move at that point, but still...they just moved on and we all said, "Oh...cool."
They've already focused on introducing characters and slowly moving focus to new people.
I think we get real deaths, and some real retirements. I think WS takes the Cap mantle. Iron Man dies, Cap dies or retires, etc.
I think we get a new core team with Panther, Strange, Spider-Man, maybe Widow sticks it out, possibly a new Vision or Scarlet Witch.
I still hold to the cosmic play for the further out phases which might help with casting because Voiceovers and CGI become the tools.
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what do wish they WOULD do?
Moon Knight or Bust.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:57 am to GeauxTigerTM
The Punisher. 
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:58 am to BilJ
I think there are two ways to go, depending on how the Sony IP turns out. If they get the mutants and the Fantastic Four, its a no-brainer: Hickman's Secret Wars. Consolidate the multiverses by literally eradicating all of the old ones and starting over. Also, DOOM.
The other route is to go Avengers Disassembled and have Scarlet Witch lose control of her faculties thanks to killing Vision and then kill off the Avengers you want to get rid of.
Or, you can go a middle ground and go House of M leading to Disassembled then Secret Wars if you get the IP but want to prolong it.
The other route is to go Avengers Disassembled and have Scarlet Witch lose control of her faculties thanks to killing Vision and then kill off the Avengers you want to get rid of.
Or, you can go a middle ground and go House of M leading to Disassembled then Secret Wars if you get the IP but want to prolong it.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:03 pm to OMLandshark
Nope Bucky gonna be white wolf from black panther. Falcon gonna take up the shield
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:05 pm to Freauxzen
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Moon Knight
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:07 pm to jackmanusc
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Falcon gonna take up the shield
That sounds lame AF.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:13 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I don't think you can recast the roles until several years down the road. I think having other characters simply take up the Iron Man and Captain America mantle would work better. RDJ is Tony Stank and Chris Evans is Steve Rogers.
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:15 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
I’m just speculating based on the source material. Both Bucky and falcon take up the shield in the comics but black panther referred to him as white wolf in the movie, which is a legit character. Coulda been a throwaway line but I dunno
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:20 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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I don't think you can recast the roles until several years down the road.
Yeah...that's fine. No need to push them in...give the character a break for a few movies. All I'm asking is that you don't kill them off only to recast when/if you decide to reboot the WHOLE THING down the line.
In the end, it's a problem that has not really existed before on this scale. Because of the continuing story and multilayered nature of the universe, you either have to allow characters to REALLY move on, never to be seen again in this timeline, or recast them as just keep going. Since I'm not interested in losing 10+ years of storytelling and nearly 20 movies at this point, I'm in favor of recasting and continuing to push forward as even more characters come into the universe and new stories unfold.
I have no idea what they will ultimately do...just my preference.
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RDJ is Iron-Man and Chris Evans is Cap to me.
RDJ has been the glue this whole time, and Evans has been so much better than I had hoped. But you know, Hemsworth may be just as irreplaceable as Thor. Tough choices all around.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 12:54 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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But you know, Hemsworth may be just as irreplaceable as Thor. Tough choices all around.
After his last two appearances, I agree.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 1:05 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
Now that Thor has met the Guardians, I'd love a Thor and Rocket "Buddy Cop" type movie, they were great together in IW.
I'm not into the Comics, but just from the Cinematic Universe you've built up to the 'ultimate' bad guy and since he delivers, Individual movies from here on out will have to focus on more localized villains, with less global aspirations, similar to Spiderman Homecoming or the 'villain problem' will be more pronounced than ever.
I'm not into the Comics, but just from the Cinematic Universe you've built up to the 'ultimate' bad guy and since he delivers, Individual movies from here on out will have to focus on more localized villains, with less global aspirations, similar to Spiderman Homecoming or the 'villain problem' will be more pronounced than ever.
Posted on 4/30/18 at 1:10 pm to VoxDawg
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That sounds lame AF.
It works.
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