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re: I wanted boards opinion on execution of an offense

Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:21 pm to
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start a thread with legitmate discission and here you come ....like you do in every other thread with pout and gargle. ?



i actually commented on the op. i didn't whine about your post.


my post......
quote:

using this logic no coach is ever at fault for anything in a football game. 

the coaches arent out there missing blocks and getting plays blown up. 
hell a qb draw can go for a td if the players execut



This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93960 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:24 pm to
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But on same note O did an great job for the most part righting ship so to speak after Troy debacle. 

I certainly agree with this, although I would've been interested to see it against stiffer competition. Obviously no way for him to control that part.

This also to a degree supports the notion that most of the positive things he does follow situations he creates. I honestly hope he puts that to bed this year.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:25 pm to
Stiffer competition?


Come on MAN!

Ole miss
Tenn
Ark
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Am
ND
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:30 pm to
I don't understand. Are you arguing that that was a brutal stretch of games or something? You don't even have them in the right order, FWIW. Auburn, Bama and ND are the only teams you listed that didn't fire their coach or end up with a losing record and we lost 2/3 of those games
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93960 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:31 pm to
4 of the 8 had such bad teams that they fired their head coach. Ole Miss had a first year head coach and as I've been told a million times on this board you can't expect much out of a first year coach. LSU only beat 2 of the teams with winning records. So, yeah I would have liked to have seen what would have happened against some better teams.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67789 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:31 pm to
Tenn, Ark Florida , and Ole Miss were trash last year.

We lost to Alabam and ND

So yeah we beat Auburn. Otherwise we didn’t do shite vs tougher competition.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

I wanted boards opinion on execution of an offense

Does not compute
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54652 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Ole miss Tenn Ark Alabama Auburn Florida Am ND
two of these are really good teams while the others are a joke.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:37 pm to
I didn't intend to put them in order.
Means nothing at all what order they are in, thanks for pointing out something meaningless.

Furthermore they are SEC teams with SEC caliber players.
I suppose you clowns want to blame their lack of success last year on O too.

Maybe we can play the NFC east one year so y'all be happy.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54652 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Maybe we can play the NFC east one year so y'all be happy.
no need, this year will tell everyone what they need to know. One way or the other.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Stiffer competition? 


Come on MAN! 

Ole miss 
Tenn 
Ark 
Alabama 
Auburn 
Florida 
Am 
ND





only 3 of those teams had less than 6 losses.

1 had less than 3.

there are 3 teams on that lost that combined for 3 sec wins.

ole miss -6 losses
tenn- 8 losses
ark- 8 losses
bama- the one good team
auburn- 4 losses
florida-7 losses
am- 6 losses
nd- 3 losses


did you follow the 2017 cfb season?
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:43 pm to
Jalen hurts will most likely be asked to play rb in the pros, not a legit pro qb.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39994 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Furthermore they are SEC teams with SEC caliber players.
I suppose you clowns want to blame their lack of success last year on O too.

Maybe we can play the NFC east one year so y'all be happy.

Yikes. You suck at this.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:47 pm to
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o need, this year will tell everyone what they need to know. One way or the other


Hey little buddy, we finally agree on something

Friction on this board comes in when people start expressing how they choose to feel about up till that point.
I just choose to be optimistic about it and put trust in people hired to do the job.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:48 pm to
YIKES!

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:52 pm to
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p&g


you didnt follow college football last year of you think playing 1 good team is a tough stretch.

Tenn and Arky had 8 losses and combined for 1 sec win
Florida had 7 losses and 2 sec wins
A&M and ole miss both had 6 losses and combined for 7 sec wins


the other 3 teams were decent and we lost 2 of them.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54652 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Hey little buddy, we finally agree on something Friction on this board comes in when people start expressing how they choose to feel about up till that point. I just choose to be optimistic about it and put trust in people hired to do the job.
I understand. I certainly don't WANT O to fail because Id hate seeing LSU return to the 90's. I hope he succeeds and wins every game he coaches. Id be glad to be proved wrong and have him win and win big.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
17078 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:59 pm to
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10:04 am to p&g I'm going to guess your opinion on the matter is whatever allows O to take zero blame whatsoever for any failures last season and going forward.


Exactly.

I just stopped by to downvote the shithead who started this thread, but this bears repeating.

The O-suckers like pg and ree are so easy to see through—all the while, they are stupid enough to think they are fooling everyone as to their true motives.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:06 pm to
No it's not exactly.
Read harder next time you fricking douche.

I've made my motives very clear.
EAD
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13343 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:26 pm to
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to execute the play that is called? sure.

but schematically, what could the coaches have done to put the players in better position to succeed? call better plays, outscheme their opponents, spot matchup advantages and attack them accordingly, and above all - preparation. you know from the first series if your team is prepared or not...and if they are not, then it's on you.
You bring up a point that has always been a gripe of mine (including especialy LSU, but not limited to).

You can (and should) scheme in a way, macro and micro, strategically and tactically, that gives the players the most advantages. It's magical how much execution improves when you do that. It's one thing to run extra wind sprints and take an arse chewing vs. having a coach ask why you couldn't get an angle on a LB and adjust the why. It's the difference between demanding better and getting better.

On "execution" in general... both are required, and both have dual roles:

Coach as Instructor: you have to lay the proverbial foundation for the skills sets required to execute the scheme. Drills of course, but includes being able to recognize weaknesses (honestly and objectively) and address them on the individual level.

Coach as Strategist: the "scheme". Have to be able to devise one that gives your players the best advantages, play to play AND game to game, AND communicate that effectively.

Players: have to be able to (honestly and objectively) take criticism on those weaknesses by the coach, be coach-able, and go out and combine those to and do your job.

If any of those two fails at either of the two roles- "execution" suffers. Hence both.
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