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re: I wanted boards opinion on execution of an offense
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:32 pm to p&g
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:32 pm to p&g
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Jalen hurts says what up Jon boy!
So, you're picking one player's performance in one half of one football game and using that as proof positive that you're correct? You're picking and choosing small samples to try to make your case.
This whole discussion you posed is coming from you saying that LSU had a good game plan against Bama in another thread, but receivers dropped the ball. If multiple receivers are dropping passes in multiple games, then it sounds like you have a coaching problem. Who hires the position coaches? The head coach does and that's why everything comes back on the head coach good or bad because they are the ones making the decisions that ultimately have an impact on who wins and loses the game.
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:35 pm to TigerLunatik
It's the latest example.
Plus It was at highest level of competition and level of success.
I apologize, it was just too obvious.
Wouldn't want to take that into Consideration would we?
Plus It was at highest level of competition and level of success.
I apologize, it was just too obvious.
Wouldn't want to take that into Consideration would we?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:42 pm to p&g
But, it's not an example. The guy had ONE bad game and it was ONE player. Plus, the coach made the decision to replace him and they won the game, which just so happened to be the national championship.
No one is refuting that players have bad games here and there, but if multiple players at the same position have the same issue in multiple games, then that's coaching.
If a player is having a bad game and the coach keeps going back to that player, that's a coaching issue.
This discussion is easier to grasp in basketball. If a player is in a shooting slump, they don't get the same amount of minutes due to the coach sitting them down.
No one is refuting that players have bad games here and there, but if multiple players at the same position have the same issue in multiple games, then that's coaching.
If a player is having a bad game and the coach keeps going back to that player, that's a coaching issue.
This discussion is easier to grasp in basketball. If a player is in a shooting slump, they don't get the same amount of minutes due to the coach sitting them down.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:51 pm to Gray Tiger
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I'm going to guess that no matter what happens up to and including a thermonuclear attack will be O's fault in your opinion.
Funny coming from the guy who is too much of a bitch to even express a single solitary opinion of his own.
But to address your post- Nope. Unlike simpletons like you I’m not blindly in favor or against anyone. O, because he is the head coach, deserves a lion’s share of credit when things go right (see: gutsy comeback win v Auburn) and blame when things go bad (see: arse beating by State, losing to Troy). If the players on a consistent basis fail to “execute” its a reflection of the coach and his abilities, would you not generally agree? If the players consistently execute a shitty game plan is it also not a reflection of the coach?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:54 pm to lsu2006
Bc you've expressed so many opinions in this thread.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:55 pm to lsu2006
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I’m not blindly in favor or against anyone.
+1 same here.
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O, because he is the head coach, deserves a lion’s share of credit when things go right (see: gutsy comeback win v Auburn) and blame when things go bad (see: arse beating by State, losing to Troy). If the players on a consistent basis fail to “execute” its a reflection of the coach and his abilities
100% correct
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:57 pm to TigerLunatik
ok but no player on our team last year had consistently bad games. Meh, outside kicker.
Which is funny bc without him we lose to auburn.
Which is funny bc without him we lose to auburn.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:57 pm to p&g
Coaches, football is the sport that rely on the coaches the most once the game starts.
If the players aren't executing on a regular basis, the coach either needs to change the player, or call plays that play to the strengths of your players.
If the players aren't executing on a regular basis, the coach either needs to change the player, or call plays that play to the strengths of your players.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:58 pm to lsu2006
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consistent basis
Hmmmm that's Interesting.
Who was this player?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:59 pm to p&g
I just did. If players consistently fail to execute a solid gameplan it is a reflection of the coaching staff. Isolated failures on part of one or a few player can be attributed largely to the individual players but in the end, a coach is judged by results - wins and losses. If players consistently execute a shite gameplan or scheme it obviously reflects on the coaching staff as well.
Either way, gray tiger has never once expressed an opinion on the topic at hand. He sure as shite will bash others for their opinions but good luck getting him to express one of his own
Either way, gray tiger has never once expressed an opinion on the topic at hand. He sure as shite will bash others for their opinions but good luck getting him to express one of his own
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:01 pm to p&g
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Meh, outside kicker.
Which is funny bc without him we lose to auburn.
That is pretty damn funny. I would say the receivers really underperformed when you consider their talent which is why Joseph is no longer the coach IMO.
I still would like an explanation as to why Sullivan was the analyst last year and not the coach. I'm assuming it's because of recruiting, but I don't follow that too much until signing day.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:01 pm to p&g
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Hmmmm that's Interesting.
Who was this player?
What?
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:07 pm to lsu2006
What player on our team last year was on a "consistent basis" of fricking up?
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:08 pm to p&g
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Thank you. At ftr I never said coaches have NO responsibility in this. You just made that up.
I said Both have responsibility and you asked me to apologize and called me an idiot.
Don’t be a pussy stick by your guns you back tracking bitch. You wanna make a hot take own it.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:10 pm to SammyTiger
Idgaf what you said.
I never said it was no responsibly on coaches you made that up.
No back tracking at all on my part kid.
I never said it was no responsibly on coaches you made that up.
No back tracking at all on my part kid.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:10 pm to The Egg
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but schematically, what could the coaches have done to put the players in better position to succeed? call better plays, outscheme their opponents, spot matchup advantages and attack them accordingly, and above all - preparation.
Agree with all of this
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you know from the first series if your team is prepared or not...
This, not so much. In fact it's an incredibly stupid statement.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:12 pm to lsu2006
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If players consistently fail to execute a solid gameplan
Dude obviously.
That's not the point though.
This thread all came together really based on discussion of lack of execution last year vs Alabama.
Players that didn't make plays that game proved themselves numerous times before and after.
That's not on the coaches .
It's on the players. Even the guys would admit that.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:14 pm to p&g
Then make a different post.
Cause I would Agree the plays were there. Chark had bama best over the top multiple times and Etling couldn’t make the throw.
Simultaneously there were games where literally all 3 facets of the team looked bad, unmotivated and unprepared. I think That has to be on the coaches at some point.
Cause I would Agree the plays were there. Chark had bama best over the top multiple times and Etling couldn’t make the throw.
Simultaneously there were games where literally all 3 facets of the team looked bad, unmotivated and unprepared. I think That has to be on the coaches at some point.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:15 pm to p&g
LSU's offense was executed by les miles about 10 years ago.
The movie is called the purple mile
The movie is called the purple mile
Posted on 4/18/18 at 1:17 pm to SammyTiger
You're right.
But on same note O did an great job for the most part righting ship so to speak after Troy debacle.
Things could've really gone south.
Instead we beat the F out of a lot of sec teams on road and at home.
But on same note O did an great job for the most part righting ship so to speak after Troy debacle.
Things could've really gone south.
Instead we beat the F out of a lot of sec teams on road and at home.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 1:20 pm
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