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Allegiant Airlines - The most dangerous airline in the US
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:27 am
60 minutes article
Allegiant operates flights out of MSY
Allegiant Air is a small, ultra-low-cost carrier based in Las Vegas, that happens to be one of the country's most profitable airlines. But, according to federal aviation records and interviews with pilots, mechanics and industry experts, it may also be the most dangerous.
The airline flew 12 million passengers last year on its 99 planes to 120 destinations from California to Florida. But it's had persistent problems since at least the summer of 2015 when it experienced a rash of mid-air breakdowns, including five on a single day. It was not a fluke.
Public documents show an alarming number of aborted takeoffs, cabin pressure loss, emergency descents, and unscheduled landings. Yet for the most part, allegiant's difficulties have managed to stay under the radar of the flying public.
Allegiant has some of the lowest fares, the least frills, and the oldest fleet in the business. Right now, nearly 30% of its planes are antiquated, gas-guzzling McDonnell-Douglas MD-80s, almost all of them purchased second-hand from foreign airlines. It also has more than its share of angry, traumatized passengers willing to share their experiences.
Dan Mannheim: People are screaming. The stewardess are running up and down the aisles.
Chris: And then the smoke started pouring in out of all the vents you know, started filling the cabin up with smoke.
Shanyl: All I kept thinking was, "Thank God we're on the ground."
Between January 1st, 2016 and the end of last October, we found more than 100 serious mechanical incidents, including mid-air engine failures, smoke and fumes in the cabin, rapid descents, flight control malfunctions, hydraulic leaks and aborted takeoffs.
Anyone have a good "I Survived Allegiant Airlines" story?
Also, INB4 Travel Board
Allegiant operates flights out of MSY
Allegiant Air is a small, ultra-low-cost carrier based in Las Vegas, that happens to be one of the country's most profitable airlines. But, according to federal aviation records and interviews with pilots, mechanics and industry experts, it may also be the most dangerous.
The airline flew 12 million passengers last year on its 99 planes to 120 destinations from California to Florida. But it's had persistent problems since at least the summer of 2015 when it experienced a rash of mid-air breakdowns, including five on a single day. It was not a fluke.
Public documents show an alarming number of aborted takeoffs, cabin pressure loss, emergency descents, and unscheduled landings. Yet for the most part, allegiant's difficulties have managed to stay under the radar of the flying public.
Allegiant has some of the lowest fares, the least frills, and the oldest fleet in the business. Right now, nearly 30% of its planes are antiquated, gas-guzzling McDonnell-Douglas MD-80s, almost all of them purchased second-hand from foreign airlines. It also has more than its share of angry, traumatized passengers willing to share their experiences.
Dan Mannheim: People are screaming. The stewardess are running up and down the aisles.
Chris: And then the smoke started pouring in out of all the vents you know, started filling the cabin up with smoke.
Shanyl: All I kept thinking was, "Thank God we're on the ground."
Between January 1st, 2016 and the end of last October, we found more than 100 serious mechanical incidents, including mid-air engine failures, smoke and fumes in the cabin, rapid descents, flight control malfunctions, hydraulic leaks and aborted takeoffs.
Anyone have a good "I Survived Allegiant Airlines" story?
Also, INB4 Travel Board
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:29 am to Tigeralum2008
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The most dangerous airline in the US
They should use this in advertising. I bet revenue would increase if they played it right. Edgy.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:29 am to Tigeralum2008
Just looked at their website and you can fly to Orlando for 30 bucks.
Hard pass
Hard pass
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:30 am to Slingin Pickle
Mercedes Weller: He came on and he said, "The mechanics have been working on this right engine. We apologize for that. We'll get you up in the air as soon as possible." As we started taxiing, everything was going okay. And then it's, like, as soon as the wheels came up, the engine blew.
Passenger Video: Here we go, we're taking off. Say blastoff! Oh [expletive].
Mercedes Weller: The force of it was so hard that it-- it popped open the cockpit doors. And there was smoke in the cabin and fire coming out of that engine. And I just remember thinking that I would never see my daughter again.
Weller and Mannheim said the plane had to circle at a low altitude on one engine for about 25 minutes while the airport ground crews cleared debris from the runway for an emergency landing.
Dan Mannheim: Everyone turned their phones back on. And I called my family. And-- I pretty much tellin' 'em goodbyes.
Steve Kroft: You thought this was it?
Mercedes Weller: I text my husband. And I said "If something happens, just know that I've been very happy. And I love you."
The plane eventually landed safely back in Cincinnati. For their trouble, Allegiant offered to re-book Mercedes and Dan the next day and gave everyone a $150 voucher.
Passenger Video: Here we go, we're taking off. Say blastoff! Oh [expletive].
Mercedes Weller: The force of it was so hard that it-- it popped open the cockpit doors. And there was smoke in the cabin and fire coming out of that engine. And I just remember thinking that I would never see my daughter again.
Weller and Mannheim said the plane had to circle at a low altitude on one engine for about 25 minutes while the airport ground crews cleared debris from the runway for an emergency landing.
Dan Mannheim: Everyone turned their phones back on. And I called my family. And-- I pretty much tellin' 'em goodbyes.
Steve Kroft: You thought this was it?
Mercedes Weller: I text my husband. And I said "If something happens, just know that I've been very happy. And I love you."
The plane eventually landed safely back in Cincinnati. For their trouble, Allegiant offered to re-book Mercedes and Dan the next day and gave everyone a $150 voucher.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:30 am to Tigeralum2008
I flew Allegiant MSY to JAX for the Players golf tournament a couple of years ago. No problems.
ETA: $90 round trip
ETA: $90 round trip
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:31 am to Tigeralum2008
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Mercedes Weller: The force of it was so hard that it-- it popped open the cockpit doors. And there was smoke in the cabin and fire coming out of that engine. And I just remember thinking that I would never see my daughter again.
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Dan Mannheim: Everyone turned their phones back on. And I called my family. And-- I pretty much tellin' 'em goodbyes.
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Mercedes Weller: I text my husband. And I said "If something happens, just know that I've been very happy. And I love you."
bunch of drama queens
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:32 am to RTN
We wanted to know how unusual it was for a small airline with 99 planes to have 25 engine failures or malfunctions in less than two years.
Daniel Wells: Well, I-- I don't have all the data in front of me to compare with other airlines. But I can say that those are extraordinarily high numbers.
Steve Kroft: Outside the norm?
Daniel Wells: Outside the norm for sure. If I come into a career as an airline pilot now, I will go my entire career, maybe 30 years, and never have an engine failure, ever.
Daniel Wells: Well, I-- I don't have all the data in front of me to compare with other airlines. But I can say that those are extraordinarily high numbers.
Steve Kroft: Outside the norm?
Daniel Wells: Outside the norm for sure. If I come into a career as an airline pilot now, I will go my entire career, maybe 30 years, and never have an engine failure, ever.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:33 am to TheHarahanian
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They should use this in advertising. I bet revenue would increase if they played it right. Edgy.
It would play to the Mountain Dew x-treme crowd.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:34 am to Tigeralum2008
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gave everyone a $150 voucher.
That's 5 trips to Orlando. They should be happy not complaining.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:34 am to Tigeralum2008
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For their trouble, Allegiant offered to re-book Mercedes and Dan the next day and gave everyone a $150 voucher.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:35 am to 777Tiger
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777Tiger
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bunch of drama queens
You an AA pilot?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:35 am to Tigeralum2008
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Allegiant has some of the lowest fares, the least frills, and the oldest fleet in the business.
Well, you get what you pay for.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:36 am to Tigeralum2008
Booking my wife on Allegiant cross-country now. Thanks for the heads up!
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:36 am to LZ83
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You an AA pilot?
don't go to meetings, that's for quitters
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:36 am to Tigeralum2008
Allegiant Airlines is listed as one of the "25 Airlines That Have Never Had a Major Accident"
LINK
Allegiant is an airline where — as they say — “past performance is not necessarily a predictor of future results.”
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Allegiant is an airline where — as they say — “past performance is not necessarily a predictor of future results.”
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:36 am to LZ83
He can't tell you, it's anonymous. Jesus.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:37 am to 777Tiger
Have you ever had an engine failure in flight?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:38 am to Tigeralum2008
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The plane eventually landed safely back in Cincinnati. For their trouble, Allegiant offered to re-book Mercedes and Dan the next day and gave everyone a $150 voucher.
Had that been Spirit Airlines they would have charged them for a second flight. PLUS all the add-ons.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:39 am to xperfection457
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i bet my entire family that i can make a worse airline company
seen worse airlines flying around the quad
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:41 am to Tigeralum2008
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operates flights out of MSY
Fitting.
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