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re: Allegiant Airlines - The most dangerous airline in the US
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:59 am to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:59 am to kywildcatfanone
Anyone know if the other budget carriers, frontier and spirit, have the same issues with fleet and maintenance?
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:02 am to 777Tiger
Has to be over embellishment with the we had to circle for 25 minutes before landing for debris to be cleared. There are 3 other viable runways at CVG that they could have landed on.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:04 am to 632627
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Anyone know if the other budget carriers, frontier and spirit, have the same issues with fleet and maintenance?
Although it ranks among the bottom in customer satisfaction, Frontier currently maintains a perfect 7-star safety rating from Airline Ratings and has yet to have a serious accident in its 22-year history.
Spirit Airlines is somewhere in the middle. Over the past couple of years, Spirit has experienced a few airborne maintenance incidents, and the airline lacks an optional IATA Operational Safety Audit (IOSA) certification. However, Spirit has kept an accident-free record with an ever-growing passenger base. In 2015 alone, Spirit safely delivered nearly 18 million passengers — a 25% increase from 2014.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:10 am to 632627
Spirit Airlines hasn't found a way to charge extra for in-flight maintenance issues. Yet. Once they do, watch out.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:11 am to weadjust
The issue with the MD-80, besides going with basic legal maintenance is that spare parts are becoming harder and harder to find. Even Delta has purchased older airframes just to harvest the parts for inventory.
All of Allegiant's MD-80s (the old planes that the episode focuses on) will be out of the fleet by early next year. Replaced with used and new Airbus A320s.
For the record Delta and American operate some of the oldest A320s around, built in the mid 1990s.
All of Allegiant's MD-80s (the old planes that the episode focuses on) will be out of the fleet by early next year. Replaced with used and new Airbus A320s.
For the record Delta and American operate some of the oldest A320s around, built in the mid 1990s.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:12 am to Tigeralum2008
Just checked. My flight is on an Airbus 319. That model of airplane has never recorded a fatality. Feel a little better. The fact that I have to look this up tho is ridiculous.
Why has the FAA let Allegiant slide? It's not like they're even a major airline like American or Delta? What kind of power do they have to sweep all of this under the rug?
Why has the FAA let Allegiant slide? It's not like they're even a major airline like American or Delta? What kind of power do they have to sweep all of this under the rug?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:14 am to jlovel7
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Just checked. My flight is on an Airbus 319. That model of airplane has never recorded a fatality. Feel a little better. The fact that I have to look this up tho is ridiculous.
No, but it's brother the Airbus A320 has... in this case demonstrating its computer-based fly by wire control system
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:14 am to 777Tiger
Ah, I thought the guts were built back then, and they went in for overhauls every so often.
What's the average age of commercial planes nowadays? I can't imagine buying a $100MM plane every 10 years is cost effective
What's the average age of commercial planes nowadays? I can't imagine buying a $100MM plane every 10 years is cost effective
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 11:16 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:16 am to Tigeralum2008
I flew Allegiant a couple of years ago out of Shreveport to Vegas. When I noticed that the airplane had ashtrays on the walls I figured out how they were so fricking cheap.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:20 am to Hammertime
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What's the average age of commercial planes nowadays? I can't imagine buying a $100MM plane every 10 years is cost effective
The major overhauls (D checks) happen every 5-8 years depending on the aircraft, the newer ones need them less often. In those checks you basically tear the plane apart and check to make sure nothing is corroding or cracking.
10 years is a bit quick, the average narrowbody aircraft is going to go 20-25 years. You're right it isn't cheap, and that is why airlines like Spirit and Frontier who buy brand new aircraft run them around the clock to defray the ownership costs of the plane.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:22 am to 777Tiger
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if you invest a little time and shop around you'll find comparable rates on the legit carriers
The only time I fly it is if I can't find a reasonable Missoula, MT - Atlanta Delta flight. I'll get to Vegas on another airline, then it's $30 LAS to MSO on Allegiant.
I was just noting the age of the plane the other day. I liked the leg room and leather.
But after reading that, I'll shell out the extra 10xthousands of skymiles next time. Sheesh.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 11:34 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:28 am to Tigeralum2008
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Anyone have a good "I Survived Allegiant Airlines" story?
Flew it once from ABQ to LA. No issues. Really cheap flight.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:35 am to Tigeralum2008
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Allegiant's CEO Maurice Gallagher was one of the founders of Valujet, another low-cost carrier with the same business model as Allegiant. Valujet never recovered from the crash of one of its planes in the Everglades in may of 1996.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:39 am to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:49 am to Tigeralum2008
NetJets is the only acceptible airlines.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:53 am to Hammertime
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I can't imagine buying a $100MM plane every 10 years is cost effective
I've been going to the factory and picking up brand new ones about once a month for about five years
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:59 am to jlovel7
quote:How did you find out which type of aircraft you'll be on? I've been trying to find out what Allegiant uses for the flight I'll be on this weekend with no luck.
Just checked. My flight is on an Airbus 319
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:02 pm to Tigeralum2008
Fly Poverty Airlines and then act surprised when the planes don’t work
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:04 pm to Kjun Tiger
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Valujet never recovered from the crash of one of its planes in the Everglades in may of 1996.
And that wasn't their fault--someone deliberately mislabeled oxygen tanks (and I understand they're trying to find the one who did it but he skipped out of the country to some place with no extradition treaty).
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:19 pm to Quidam65
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And that wasn't their fault--
yes it was
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someone deliberately mislabeled oxygen tanks
VerminJet employee cutting corners under orders, was a scumbag outfit, now a part of WN via Airtran
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