re: Eric Reid says he doesn't plan to protest during anthem, will take 'different approach'

I hate that they keep calling him "pro bowler". He went to the pro bowl once as an injury replacement as a rookie 4 years ago. Time to let that go..

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Incorrect again.

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In the scenario you posed in your first post in this thread, you opened with saying 0 people were aware. How is that not you acting as if Eric Reid would be the reason for people being aware of Michael brown, Alton sterling, and Eric garner?

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He clearly explains the reasons why he is protesting, what it means to him and what the protest is not for. Unless you're Helen Keller there shouldn't be a reason an adult fails to understand.

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So according to you in the scenario you posed, the majority of people are Helen Keller.

Again, do you realize how dumb you sound?

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But lets put it into context. Its the 50s and 60s. People are for sure aware about the numerous racial discrimination shite that is going on. Then you see a black person sit in a section labeled whites only, gets arrested and clearly states why she does it. Are you going to say Well gee whiz she acting like sitting in the all white section is going to bring awareness to black discrimination.

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Ah yes, there it is. Comparing Eric Reid to rosa parks. One willing to go to jail for her convictions, the other willing to completely abandon his convictions because a few days went by without getting a job, after repeatedly stating how strong and undeterred his convictions would be.

And to answer your question, rosa parks sitting in the front of the bus could not be confused as anything else but protesting racial discrimination. Eric Reid kneeling during the national anthem can, has, and continues to be confused as him protesting the anthem, the flag, the country, etc.

In short, your comparison of Eric Reid to rosa parks is equal parts invalid and absurd. Actally pretty insulting a sister well.

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No I'm stating the obvious. As stated previously Eric has provided context numerous times as to why he decided to kneel. But we live in a country where people are unable to tell you why the president has imposed tariffs on certain materials or the names of the last 5 presidents

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I'll revert you back to something else I posted earlier in this thread:

"However, if you're trying start a movement/institute change/raise awareness/etc, the responsibility falls on you and you alone to make sure your intentions and message are clearly understood by the people you are trying to reach. If people are misinterpreting your message, or the media is misrepresenting your message, it's your responsibility to figure out how to correct that. Your audience and the media don't owe you anything, you're the one trying to change something. They'll possibly actively try to sabotage your efforts if they disagree with you enough. It's never going to be easy to accomplish."

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You act as though Eric Reid kneeled and didn't explain why he kneeled. Are you dumb?

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I am? Show me where. Provide a quote where I said he didn't.

You act as though Reid explaining why he is kneeling has stopped the mass misconstruing of his message that continues to take his place. It hasn't. You are dumb.

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don't think it will be in the form of protesting during the anthem. I say 'during' because it's crazy that the narrative changed to we were 'protesting the anthem,' and that wasn't the case.

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I remember a lot of liberals bitching about the anthem itself. Suddenly they were all historians of the anthem’s racist history. Mostly Bc the word slave is used.

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I think what you’re failing (or perhaps refusing) to acknowledge is that everyone knows what Eric Reid said. People are saying that his protests didn’t jive with what he was trying to raise awareness towards.

You’re example of sit-ins in the 60s illustrates this perfectly. The sit-ins were protesting the fact that black people were not allowed to be there. The protest and the wrong that needed to be addressed were related.

Saying that you’re protesting police brutality by refusing to stand for the anthem is dumb because it draws attention away from the very thing you’re trying to illuminate. The flag doesn’t represent cops.

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All of this. And worse, the protest was insulting and offensive to the very institution that actually guarantees the freedoms the protesters so desperately pretend are missing. And, furthermore, the protesters doubled down on their insults when they received the backlash and labeled those that disagreed as racists.

There is no coming back from that.

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They aren't sticking together. There are plenty of owners who would 100% call out the NFL if they legit black balled a guy.

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I don't know... all they seem to care about is making money and not losing money. It's funny though cause the league sure is changing fast. All of these former "warriors" who have filed lawsuits played in an era when football was supposedly "better" sure have helped frick up the current game. There is so much hypocrisy to go around that it's not even funny.

and that's the real heart of the problem. The level of play isn't as good as it could be. These current players are capable of much more.

instead the league got more attention last year because of some bullshite political takes (no matter what side you're on) than the real issue. The game is more stale now.

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it really makes a mockery of what the Civil Rights people accomplished and sacrificed for when you really think about it without bias.

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This. This is what burns me up the most about the whole brouhaha.

The rhetoric from these pro-kneeling people makes it seem like the USA in 2018 is the same as it was during the civil rights movement.

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Today, if you went and asked a group of random people what Eric Reid and Colin kaepernick were protesting by kneeling during the national anthem, the majority would say the national anthem/flag.

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maybe our media should have did a better job of explaining the correct reasons for the protests... And those that didn't, deserve to be shunned

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maybe our media should have did a better job of explaining the correct reasons for the protests...

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In what way is that their responsibility?

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And those that didn't, deserve to be shunned

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Yea. Good luck with that.

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In what way is that their responsibility?

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In fairness, if the media is reporting on something, isn't it actually their responsibility to be correct?